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SFO Approach Pattern - Jan 16th Am  
User currently offlineJs From Malta, joined Aug 2001, 108 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

Anyone know why the regular winter approach pattern is in effect this morning (landing to the west and taking off to the south)? The weather outside is clear and visibility is very good.

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User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2714 times:

clear skies + good visibility = turbulence + strong associated crosswinds

note that:

overcast skies + shitty vis + rain, etc. = turbulence + strong associated winds

as well... which is why I landed on the 19L and witness several UA 747-400s taking off on said runway when I arrived back at home for winter break on December 14th, in the midst of a fairly large rainstorm, with huge headwinds that made our groundspeed seem really slow on final approach.

IIRC, takeoff procedures on 19L call for an immediate left turnout after gear retraction.


User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2573 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2628 times:



I flew into SFO today, Jan. 16th on BA285 from LHR, and arrived in the Bay Area to find pretty good weather.

We were flying from eastern Washington over Redding, over Napa/Sonoma Valleys and made a sharp bank off of Stinson Beach to head back over Angel Island, and on into SFO from a "bad weather" approach (i.e. landing towards the west direction on the runways that domestic flights usually take off toward the east).

I also noticed a WN flight landing at OAK from the "bad weather" approach, i.e. from the northern direction, as our 747-400 flew over that airport.

Weather didn't seem to be a problem, neither did winds (which in my dreadfully limited experience I would expect the plane to be rocking all over the place). Very calm indeed.

The pilot actually took the time to point out some landmarks as he was "gliding" around the Bay prior to landing.


User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2782 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2604 times:

I arrived in the Bay Area on a WN flight headed for OAK on December 14. We landed on runway 29 with a UA 757 flying over us on finals to 19L. Exciting stuff!

User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

Go to http://www4.passur.com/sjc.html

open the radius up larger and you can see the SFO approach and what is coming in.


User currently offlineJs From Malta, joined Aug 2001, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2541 times:

Johnboy -

I saw your plane coming in! I was spotting from atop Twin Peaks in San Francisco and watched BA285 coming in over the Bay and I also saw that WN plane that was landing below you in Oaktown. Sounds like you were sitting on the left side of the plane. Those on the right side had an amazing view of downtown SF as the pilot banked over the Bay Bridge. Just ahead of you was LH454 coming in from Frankfurt, taking the same approach in over the Bay.


User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2501 times:

I did mention about this in my HP/BA trip report I posted a few days ago. I flew into SFO on 12/26, but in miserable conditions, and with this same flight pattern.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39659 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2498 times:

I enjoyed these flight patterns. I live here in San Francisco's Twin Peaks district near Sutro Tower. Looking up from my bedroom window I could hear and see the planes coming in ready for approach.


Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Isn't that SFO's usual approach pattern? I watched that BA 744 come in on Jan 16 on passur.com and don't they usually come in over the bay like that from the southeast?

User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2573 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

Glad to see everyone was watching over me that day!

I usually see planes landing from the south on those parallel runways whose approach goes over the San Mateo Bridge.

However today, our plane landed on the set of runways that domestic flights usually depart from, i.e. we made a sharp turn right while flying south over Alameda.

On the ground I can tell when this flight path is being used, because the planes come down relatively low over Concord/Martinez (usually thru low clouds and fog/rain).

The one time I've flown the bad weather approach into OAK, we followed the same path as the WN plane I saw below us. And let me tell you, it was quite a roller-coaster ride too.

BTW, there couldn't have been more than 100 people total on the BA flight that day, so I got an entire row in the middle section to sleep in for a couple of hours. The flight from Cape Town the night before was packed, and miserable as hell.


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