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COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400  
User currently offlineN737MC From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 678 posts, RR: 16
Posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2700 times:


To let everyone know. COA is using a Boeing 767-400 from DEN to IAH, on #1123. I am assuming this was prob a last minute equipment change on the inbound flight. Maybe someone can fill in as to why.

Still very cool. Would be great if the B764 Service was everyday. I know all of us Denver spotters would like that. Right guys?


Thanks

Aaron Mandolesi
Denver, Colorado




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User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2472 times:

Aircraft substitutions are nothing out of the ordinary, especially at Continental. It happens all the time. The chance of a 767-400 operating daily on DEN-IAH is next to ZERO.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineN737MC From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 678 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

#1123 was supposed to be op'd by a 757-200 today.

Well even if it won't ever fly regularly to DEN, was still cool it op'd here today.

Thanks

Aaron Mandolesi



User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

The chance of a 767-400 operating daily on DEN-IAH is next to ZERO.

How would you know? While I agree it's not likely that Continental will ever operate a 764 to DEN daily, how can you be so sure it will never happen?

Delta flies several 767s (both, 762s and 763s) to DEN. What makes you think Continental won't one day fly widebodies to DEN?

Especially if they do a major build up again.....



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

I was on AA 1123 and that was DFW-DEN, and it eqiup. change was to a 767-300 from a 757. This was like 5 years ago


Go big or go home
User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13608 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2372 times:
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BA-

While we're being ridiculous, what's to say the Earth won't explode tomorrow?  Insane Or that Southwest won't ever order B-747 equipment?

He's giving his opinion based historical precedents, and on all the information available to him as a CO employee. I'd say he's probably right, so while we all know that there's no way to give an "iron-clad, 100% with absolute certainty" guarantee that it will never happen, odds are that CO will never run scheduled DEN-IAH service using 764s.

So let's not split hairs, ok?



"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2365 times:

EA CO AS,

My point is CO flying a 764 is not ridiculous and and may very well happen. After all, Delta flies 767s to Denver. Why is it so shocking that another major airline will 767s to Denver? Absolutely nothing. He completely ruled out that possibility and that's what I'm arguing about.

odds are that CO will never run scheduled DEN-IAH service using 764s.

I absolutely disagree with this statement. People said CO would never run scheduled DEN-IAH service using 757s. Guess what? They now have 2 daily flights that are on 757s and during other times of the year, they have 3 daily flights on 757s. During the summer, they bring in 757-300s. People said Denver would never see 757-300s by CO in Denver. What makes you think a 764 will never happen? While I agree that a 764 chance is still pretty slim, it's not "next to ZERO" as ContinentalEWR said.

So let's not split hairs, ok?

I should be saying that statement to you. I'm not the one who's using a moody tone and asking rhetorical questions.....



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

To me this is a stupid argument.....let it go.

UAL747


User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2045 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2342 times:

My father is a retired CO captain and we live here in DEN. Even though he is retired, He still flies between DEN and IAH every week. He used to go out of COS until they made most of the flights ERJs. Anyway a few weeks ago they substituted a 777 on an IAH-DEN instead of the 757 it was originally supposed to be. Before people scoff in disbelief, this is from a person who knows what they're talking about (a 36 year old airline veteran) and who was actually on the flight.

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2336 times:

This isn't the first time they are substituting with a 764. It's happened several times in the past. Some days they are having very high load days and I think this boom of passengers is relatively recent.

Just 2 years ago, Continental did not fly 1 757 to DEN. The largest aircraft at the time was a 738, then they started flying 739s, and now they have 2 daily 757s and a 3rd during parts of the year.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

Klwright69, I have too seen a Continental 777 in Denver. If I remember correctly, it was flying Toyko to Newark and diverted to Denver due to snowstorms on the entire east coast.

User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2325 times:

That's interesting that they would divert to Denver on a NRT-EWR run. That's waaay out of the way. Canada, hell even ORD would have been a better option that diverting to Denver.

UAL747


User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2266 times:

I seriously doubt we would divert a 777 to DEN off an NRT-EWR run, pretty far out of the way on that flight plan. NRT-IAH seems a lot more realistic, maybe that was the case?

As for 767s coming to DEN,

767s have been there in the past, usually on equipment substitutions or the rare delivery flight from Seattle (we brought a 767-200 to Houston by way of DEN a year or two ago), and almost always on flights to Houston. I'm not going to rule out us ever flying 767s to DEN, but if the airline was to continue with its three existing hubs and basic fleet structure, then we simply would not have enough 767s to offer a daily flight to DEN. More 757 flights would probably happen first.

And don't forget, DL flies 767s everywhere. It's not a fair comparison. We have 26 767s, they have about 106.


User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2252 times:

I too thought Denver was quite out of the way. I'm pretty sure I was told it was bound for EWR, I seriously doubt it was IAH, not too many snowstorms down there.  Big thumbs up

I have two low quality pictures of it being there. The file creation dates are Jan. 11, 2001. So, if anyone has any way of doing a search or something, for that date or slightly before that, we'll find out for sure.


User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2237 times:

These are the Continental departures out of DEN on the 11th Jan 2001, dont have time tl look through the schedules to see if any were odd flight numbers, although there are no listed diversions for that day to Den on Continental or for the 10th

CO 01/11/2001 0028 N77827 EWR 12:45
CO 01/11/2001 0372 N16084 IAH 16:33
CO 01/11/2001 0400 N72822 EWR 7:18
CO 01/11/2001 0402 N76355 EWR 10:51
CO 01/11/2001 0408 N77303 EWR 18:25
CO 01/11/2001 0488 N13248 IAH 19:50
CO 01/11/2001 0584 N14242 IAH 14:27
CO 01/11/2001 1298 N17328 CLE 15:43
CO 01/11/2001 1441 N12319 IAH 11:42
CO 01/11/2001 1486 N73385 CLE 9:10
CO 01/11/2001 1668 N34838 IAH 6:38
CO 01/11/2001 1726 N936AS IAH 17:43
CO 01/11/2001 1882 N69803 IAH 9:02


User currently offlineN737MC From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 678 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2200 times:

Artsyman, Dude. It "WAS NOT" a diversion. It was an equipment "SUB." Operated by a 767-400 for a 757-200 on flight #1123 DEN-IAH. Thats it, no more, no less. To verify this, I called COA. Enough Said!

Aaron


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2194 times:

Pre 9-11 CO was flying a DC-10 daily between IAH and ORD, I would not be suprised by a CO IAH-DEN 767 flight. Although as someone previously mentioned look for more 757s first, also if things get worse at UAL (which there is a 50/50 chance of) CO is making a move on DEN.


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User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

N16084- looks like a DC-10 rego to me. The rest are 737s and MD-80s for Jan. 11.

User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2159 times:

This is a really stupid argument. I think right now, the chances of a daily DEN-IAH on a 767-400 are not great, but who knows in the future....Yes Delta does fly 767's into Denver, but folks, Delta is one of the few US airlines that operates widebodies on a number of domestic routes other than transcons or intra-hub operations.....

User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

Artsyman, Dude. It "WAS NOT" a diversion

err...umm I was refering to the post about the guy who was mentioning the 777 being diverted to DEN in 2001, not your 764 question. Maybe take a pill for that short temper.

Jeremy


User currently offlineCdfmxtech From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1341 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

CO 01/11/2001 0028 N77827 EWR 12:45 - MD80
CO 01/11/2001 0372 N16084 IAH 16:33 - DC10
CO 01/11/2001 0400 N72822 EWR 7:18 - MD80
CO 01/11/2001 0402 N76355 EWR 10:51 - 733
CO 01/11/2001 0408 N77303 EWR 18:25 - 733
CO 01/11/2001 0488 N13248 IAH 19:50 - 738
CO 01/11/2001 0584 N14242 IAH 14:27 - 738
CO 01/11/2001 1298 N17328 CLE 15:43 - 733
CO 01/11/2001 1441 N12319 IAH 11:42 - 733
CO 01/11/2001 1486 N73385 CLE 9:10 - 733
CO 01/11/2001 1668 N34838 IAH 6:38 - MD80
CO 01/11/2001 1726 N936AS IAH 17:43 - MD80
CO 01/11/2001 1882 N69803 IAH 9:02 - MD80


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