Alitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 495 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6457 times:
I just wanted to clear something up in a previous post that I had. If a certain airlines fares are ID-90, that means that you pay 10% of the highest published fare for that route and class of service, or do you pay 90% of the highest published fare for that route and class of service? Meaning if it normally costs $10000 full fare business class to fly to SYD from JFK, it would cost me $1,000 if it were a ID-90? Also, can someone give me a rundown of the ZED fares, and an example of one, if possible? Thnks so much, guys (and girls).
TzMSP From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 137 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6437 times:
I have no clue what ZED fares are. BUT, as far as ID-90s go, here's how it works. ID stands for Industry Discount and the number following ID-XX is the percentage off the HIGHEST PUBLISHED Y-CLASS FARE, or F-CLASS fare. There are ID-50s, ID-75s, ID-90s, and yes, even ID-95s. Depending on if you base your ID-90 on a Y or F class, you can be upgraded. (Y subject to gate agents attitude, F automatically upgraded, pending availability.)
EX. UA Y26 fare for MSP-DEN is $1000.00. An ID-90 would cost $100.00 base fare plus all applicable taxes and fees. An ID-75 would cost $250.00 base fare plus all applicable taxes and fees. And an ID-50 would cost $500.00 base fare plus all applicable taxes and fees. (** This is a fictional fare, and used for example purposes only. I have no connection to UA, nor do I profess knowlege of their fare structures or pricing.)
As always ID-90s are space-available travel only, but since based on F or Y class fares, they are fully-refundable if not used.
This discount is seldom used with so many corporate and counter-to-counter agreements in place with airlines, but it's sure saved my hide when I got stuck somewhere and didn't have a pass to get me home.
I'm going to Washington, D. C. this week on TZ, and will carry my backup passes on US Airways and Skyway (Midwest Connect) should my flights fill up. If all 3 options failed, then I'd call TZ corporate travel and book my ID-90 on NW.
Unfortunately, depending on airline policy, the boarding priority for ID-90s is pretty low and bottom-of-the-barrel. Thus another reason they are seldom used.
Though I have always wanted to ID-90 an F class fare JFK-SVO on DL, but the idea of getting stuck in SVO is more than daunting.
Yow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6419 times:
ZED fares are almost always better than using an ID90. In some cases 90 percent off of a full Y fare is more expensive than getting a deep discounted L (seat sale or whatever code an airline may choose) fare for example.
Bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6514 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 6366 times:
Usally the employee's immediate family are eligible for ID-90's as well as retirees. Travel agents do not get ID-90's as the term ID means industry discount which means you must be in the airline industry. Travel agents get AD discounts (agent discount) but are generally AD-75's.
ID-90's are for use on other airlines that have an agreement with your airline. On your own airline you fly on a pass which costs different amounts which vary from free to fairly hefty with some carriers.
Britair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 1999, 933 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 6328 times:
ZED stands for Zonal Employee Discounts and are calculated on mileage not fares. For example 0-100 miles $10, 101-999 miles $15, $1000-1999 miles $20 etc etc....... so the mileage zones are incremental and worked out on a sector basis. The benefit is that is a lot easier to work out and is much better value. Many airlines, including British Airways, Qantas and the oneworld scheme works this way. ZED fares are interlineable and more and more common. It means you can have a ZED ticket on BA for example you can interchange it for travel on AC without reissue or fares being re-calculated.
Mitchell Gant From Montserrat, joined Aug 2000, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 6302 times:
You will rarely find an ID-90 applicable to F or C class travel. More often (if at all) you will find an ID-75 for front cabin space available travel. Speaking of LAX-SYD ID passes, more often than not you can find a cheaper CONFIRMED SPACE coach ticket from a consolidator. I haven't run the numbers lately but I remember a consolidator fare being cheaper than using a SA pass on QF.
The Ticketor From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 434 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6278 times:
ZED-tkts are for economy only, you can not get them in bus. class (but you can always hope to be upgraded).
There are three different levels, low, medium and, you guessed it, high.
Low fares are normally used for your own carrier, and carriers you either cooperate closely with or operate in the same region. High fares are almost exclusively for parents.
There are eight different zones, from 0-450 miles (zone 1) up to 6101-9000 miles (zone 8).
Zone 2 (451-750 miles): L-USD16, M-USD25, H-USD36
Zone 6 (4081-5000 miles): L-USD41, M-USD59, H-USD105
The ZED agreement is a so called "self-ticketing agreement", which means that you do not have to apply for them, not for flying on your own airline nor for the others in the "ZED-club". There are no restrictions on how many you can use per year either. Just check who is operating the flight, and the fare level. If you do not change the routing, you can switch carriers as long as they are ZED-carriers and they have the same fare level (or the one you are switching to has a lower level).
I could for example issue my self a ZED-tkt LHR-JFK with BA, but if BA is full, I could use the same ticket with AA.
We also have bookable (confirmed seat) ZED-tkts on our own flights, but those are much higher.
I'm hoping that the oneworld carriers will decide to use low fare instead of medium, but anyway, it's a great system!
FutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6264 times:
ZED agreements are Zonal Employee Discounts. I had a few on LH and AC and it was a whole heck of a lot cheaper than ID90's. And they are not really sold for Y travel only. on LH and AC if there is no space in Y they will upgrade you to C or J which ever there next class of service is.