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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

I got this from JustPlanes.com...thought it may be of interest to some....

"Air Florida Airways is planning to start service in Jun03 with service to 5 destinations in the US including Chicago Midway. The airline would initially use a fleet of 3 MD80s along with a B757 and/or B767."


Should be interesting to see how long this one lasts.


Steve in MSY


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33043 posts, RR: 71
Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

Thier fleet makes no sense, but it is for real. They will hub in St. Louis Mid-America and expand to ten destinations by year's end. Them starting up is largely based on them reciving some money from Mid-America (or Illinois Gov't, I forget) officials. I believe they need $215M.


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User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

Do they have a website? (Can't find anything while browsing on google..)

User currently offlineAA-STL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

Well, the fleet does seem rather odd to me also. But anyways, moving on, MidAmerica needs SOME service. It has virtually nothing right now, a few millitary charters here and there. Pan Am to Gary, IND & Ordland-Sanford for awhile, but Pan Am pulled out of those routes. Air Florida claims that MidAmerica is desirable due to its geographical positioning. From my personal experience with MidAmerica, I really liked it, tip top facilities and terminal, but it just seems out of place to me.
717Fan, in the article it says they have a website, but i can't find it either.
MAH4546, you are correct, they are very dependent on money from St. Clair County (where BLV is), but it is 150 mil instead of 215  Smile
Thx,
TWA4EVER


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

Whoa!!! Whoa!!! I had a friend of Mark Monse was used work for Air Florida long time ago almost 22 years ago with Steve Belleme. That was long time ago about Air Florida with older B737-200 crashes near Washingtion, D.C. Boths of them are using into Miami before. Well, talk ya later!

User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2600 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2302 times:
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http://www.airfloridaairways.com

I hope to see this startup succeed, if only to see the classic Air Florida scheme in the air again  Smile From the website it looks like they're intending to use the same corporate logos...

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User currently offlineSwa tpa From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1559 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2299 times:

What city will their home be in?


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2295 times:

From the STL paper...

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/news/4BCAFE301355D85386256CB6001C63FF?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2Cair%2Cflorida&headline=Airline+asks+for+county+help+to+bring+it+to+MidAmerica

I'll chime with the rest and note that 3 MD80s, a 757, and a 767 seems problematic as a fleet, but hey, with so many birds populating the desert, maybe they're getting them at a great price. Still complicates the daily operation, unecessarily, IHMO.

Mid-America airport (BLV, joint-use with Scott AFB) is operationally a good spot, with none of the hassles of STL. It will be a drive though...



User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

(SIGH).................

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/news/4BCAFE301355D85386256CB6001C63FF?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2Cair%2Cflorida&headline=Airline+asks+for+county+help+to+bring+it+to+MidAmerica


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

Sorry I forgot... Mercy! Mercy!

User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

That reminds me... haven't I seen an artist rendering of an Air Florida 757 in the past here on A.net?

User currently offlineAA-STL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Ehh...Air Florida Airways based in the Great Plains...doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me but. I would hope they would serve some part of Flordia  Laugh out loud
Thx,
TWA4EVER


User currently offlineSwa tpa From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1559 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2273 times:

Ok, so after reading the web sight they are going to resurrect the old Air Florida image (  Love ) but..... base it in St. Luis????????  Crying


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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

The whole thing sounds strange to me. A startup airline called 'Air Florida' is going to begin existence by operating flights between Southwestern Illinois and Chicago Midway?!?.... and on top of that, the article says:

"County officials said the holding company probably would buy an existing airline to help with its plans."

What airline would this new startup buy?? In this environment?

WTF??




An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1802 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2245 times:

Why would Air FLORIDA be based and hubbed in St. Louis???

User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2200 times:

Can you please tell us about exactly where will be in the 10 cities out of St. Louis base?? I knew that was came back for after almost more than of 20 years ago. I do knew the guys was use work at Air Florida with Mark Monse and Steve Belleme for before. Well, talk ya later!

User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2184 times:

If they are basing Air Florida Airways in St. Louis... why don't they call it Air Missouri... or hell just call it Ozark.

User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2174 times:

don't confuse this w/ the present Air Florida, a Cessna operator based out of FLL..

-n


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4606 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Hmmm...well years ago, people in TOL did fly Air Florida to LGA? Stranger things have happened I guess.  Smile

User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

It would actually be based in Illinois, not Missouri, so "Air Missouri" wouldn't be appropriate either - but I like your Ozark idea!


An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1981 times:

Actually, BLV and STL are about equidistance from downtown. From my old office in Mid Town at Union Station, once I cleared the Popular Street bridge it would be about equal time to either airport. The big advantage for STL, the population is on the Missouri side and all the West County and St. Charles County people are scarred to cross the river. Okay, so I lived in Ballwin so I can't say much but still.
Perfect Timing though, I am job hunting right now, think they need any PR people?


User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 9 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Running it up the flagpole again....lol

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