764 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 634 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4632 times:
Inside sources here in Chicago say that UA is going to cut European service drastically within the next five months. Here's what I've heard:
discontinue 962/963 IAD-MUC
close MUC station
discontinue 950/951 IAD-BRU
discontinue 958/929 LHR-BRU
close BRU station
discontinue 946/947 IAD-AMS
discontinue 966/967 ORD-AMS
close AMS station
discontinue 960/961 SFO-CDG
discontinue 900/901 SFO-FRA
discontinue 930/955 SFO-LHR
start additional service FRA-ORD
start additional service LHR-ORD
start additional service IAD-ORD
ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4563 times:
So what?? Wonder to know why United will be discontinued with some of European cities to BRU, FRA, CDG, LHR, MUC flight on UA and I do knew that was always flight is full on the route from FRA-SFO flight on B777 aircraft and LH was used service to FRA, too. SO what is need get expanded more flight out ORD? Please let us know! Thanks!
9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4540 times:
A bit off topic, sorry, but I didn´t want to start a whole thread because of this:
I´ve seen a couple of UA B744s at FRA (yesterday there were two of them parked on the apron at about 10:30am). Does anybody know if they will continue to serve FRA with their 744s or whether it was just a substitution for some days?
Sad to see IAD-MUC go (although it might be the right decision, in contrast to stopping SFO-Europe flights, maybe LH would then start additional frequencies?)
764 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4369 times:
As to my sources: They are within United, but they are not always completely reliable. I was surprised to see SFO cut that badly. Cutting BRU, MUC and possibly AMS seems reasonable though, as those could be served through London and Frankfurt respectively using LH and BD feeders. Actually that has been discussed before.
But thinking about SFO, maybe it'd make sense to have ORD strengthened as hub for European flights and possibly also IAD. I have heard people discuss a restructuring of the US network, having ORD as central hub, IAD for Atlantic flights only, SFO for Pacific flights and have a stronger link between SFO,ORD,IAD. Obviously that would reduce DEN's role in UA's route network. But this is just speculation.
FutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4300 times:
I seriously doubt that the IAD-BRU and the IAD-AMS flites will go to the wayside. These flights have been full for a long time as well as the IAD-MUC flites. I would wait and see if any news comes from WHQ anytime soon. I have yet to speak to any of my sources at UA so hopefully I will hear something soon.
SegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4119 times:
DUS died when they moved it from ORD to IAD. This was a pure money-saving move, as UA saw that 78% of all passengers on the DUS flight were coming from cities west of the 'River (mississippi) and figured they'd connect in IAD and NOT ORD...
Cody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1937 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4052 times:
As most of us already know, the face of United is about to change drastically. Sounds like the whole mission statement may be revised. So even though these rumors cannot be confirmed, nothing would surprise me. Throw in a war with Iraq and dropping the European routes may be the only option.
N777UA From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4016 times:
Cody is right, United is changing drastically. But certain things will not change. United will still be a full service worldwide carrier. We will still serve 5 continents, and will still be a member of the Star Alliance.
Europe and Latin America will be scaled back, but United will continue to serve the major cities such as London, Paris, Frankfurt, Amsterdam, and Brussels.
The core of the new United's international reach will be the Pacific, where along with NW, is the only US carrier with a rather sizeable structure.
Britair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 1999, 933 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3789 times:
Doesnt UA fly two flights LHR-SFO a day??....so that means they are only cutting one, not discontinuing the route altogether. Sorry to say it but if they dont do things like all the suspensions mentioned they are never going to survive. Sounds rational to me.