4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2846 posts, RR: 10 Posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5908 times:
I don't know what it is but a plane has apparently crashed near the top of the McDowell Mt.s near Scottsdale Airpark. I wonder if it was someone flying from the Phoenix Open not familiar with the area. I can see a sizable area burning from home here in Gilbert.
Certainly a sobering end to a big weekend here in any case...
Beefmoney From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1111 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5829 times:
I cant imagine it being much smaller than a Baron or Twin Cessna since the witnesses all claim to see a mushroom cloud. I doubt a Cessna 172 or Piper Warrior could produce such a large explosion, if their accounts are correct. Im guessing a large twin. (Purely speculation)
Has anyone heard anything that leans towards a jet aircraft? I have only heard witness lean towards a small prop.
Beefmoney From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1111 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5786 times:
Channels 3 and 15 have choppers over the scene giving live feed, channel 10 never had their AS350 over it, and it never seems like they ever have it flying anyway. Channel 5 will come on in about 5 minutes.
Beefmoney From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1111 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5740 times:
I listen to that scanner often, 4holer. It cycles through Sky Harbor clearance, ground, and tower. So probably wouldnt have had many clues broadcast on it. The police part though may be interesting. But I cant listen to it right now because I have such a crappy connection that I cant do anything else online if Im listening to it.
Beefmoney From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1111 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5723 times:
I do not understand this at all. The "investigators" at the scene have absolutely no info on this plane. This plane crashed just about 8:10 pm which means that ATC should have been working. A simple phone call to the controllers working a couple hours ago would reveal tons of info on this plane, would it not?
Deer Valley ATC goes down at 9pm, so I assume Scottsdales is on just as long if not longer. Why cant they figure anything out about this plane?
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12561 posts, RR: 64 Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5645 times:
I was driving down the Loop 101 tonight, heading home from a friend's Super Bowl party out on the west side of town.
As our car got to the area of Desert Ridge (56th Street and the 101), I noticed a big yellow-orange light on top of the McDowell Mountain Range. I kept my eye on it as we drove closer, unsure of what it was.
Upon getting closer to the area, right near the TPC, you could easily tell there was a large fire on the side of the mountain, with at least two helicopters overhead providing floodlights.
I could still see the flames from my home in Scottsdale Ranch, near 100th and Via Linda. Early news reports suggested the plane was a Bonanza, although they've backed off from that statement and are now referring to it solely as a "small, single-engine aircraft."
According to the Scottsdale Police Department, the Rural/Metro Fire Department had someone up at the crash scene almost immediately, who recovered "various documents" from the site and verified two fatalities on the mountainside.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
Through 10x50 binoculars from where I work in Scottsdale Airpark, there isn't much to see other than a burned area VERY close to the top of the mountain. A little more altitude, or a little left or right, they make it through. Sadly, not much left up there...
Gocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4298 posts, RR: 23 Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5214 times:
For those people who were watching on ch. 3 in the Phoenix area, did you hear a guy by the nameof Michael Hamann on it? He's a good friend of mine and told mebout it and also told me that he had a live telephone interview with that news station at Scottsdale, AZ where he lives.
Beefmoney From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1111 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5033 times:
My oh my. Just to clairify a trivial matter, after looking at my last post I typed "A quick search on good returned this site". That makes no sense. I meant to type google instead of good. I feel I must clairify that for the people who read that and said to themselves "WTF is a search on good?".