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Non-hub US Airports With Most Intn'al Service  
User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3130 posts, RR: 9
Posted (11 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 6703 times:

Which US non-hub airports have the most international service (not number of flights but number of airlines)?

Let's see:

BOS:
AF
BA
EI
LX
VS
LH
AZ
AC
BW
AA
NW
DL




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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 6694 times:

Correct me if I am wrong but I think that BOS is a DL hub.

Patrick


User currently offlineLfutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3335 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 6667 times:
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BOS is a CO hub

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User currently offlineKanebear From United States of America, joined May 2002, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 6667 times:

BOS is definitely not a CO hub. CO's hubs are IAH, CLE and EWR.

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 6663 times:

I have a DL timetable and all hubs are shown in capital letters on the route map, BOS is one of them.

Patrick


User currently offlineH. Simpson From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 949 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 6659 times:

BOS is probably a Delta Shuttle hub but not "Delta", the mainline carrier

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 6650 times:

There's not that much domestic service at BOS. There's BizElite flights to SFO, LAX, and SAN, service to the hubs, and the Shuttle, as well as Connection flights.

But since you can get the DL Connection flights and go on to the hubs, West Coast, and I guess still Europe, I s'pose it counts.

N


User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 6650 times:

What about LAX, it used to be hubs for some airlines, but not sure anymore


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User currently offlineLfutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3335 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 6629 times:
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Kanebear: thanks for correcting me.

Leo/ORD



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User currently offlineMbmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6634 times:

Yep, I think LAX has got to be the winner. No airline can claim it as a hub, although several carriers (UA, AA, DL) claim high levels of activity there.

I don't think you can consider BOS a hub for DL, although that might change in the future. DL has the most flights into boston, but I don't really think much "connecting" travel occurs there. Delta has committed to developing their presence in BOS in the future, once their new terminal is completed.



User currently offlineUnited01 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2003, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6623 times:

I thought LAX was a United hub? Not just claiming 2 be one but an actual one?

User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6613 times:

MB,
Yep you said what I was thinking, just did not feel like typing much  Smile...Anyways, was LAX ever a hub for Western?? And I was just looking at the LAX website..Had NO idea there were that many Internationals



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User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6600 times:

SFO is or was a hub I think, but don't think LAX


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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6584 times:

Boston and LAX are both hubs for American Airlines.

User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6449 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6574 times:

Hubs for an airline are airports that have a significant amount of cross connecting traffic and banks of flights. Having a significant number of flights does not qualify an airport as a hub. BOS and LAX do not meet this qualification for AA, and neither does BOS for DL. LAX is not a hub for any airline.

User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6566 times:

Unless American changed recently, these were the listed hubs:
Hubs: Dallas/Fort Worth, DFW; Chicago, ORD; Miami
Callsign: "American"




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User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2277 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6567 times:

Of the non-hub and non-international gateway cities (i.e. LAX, JFK, BOS, MCO), my guess for the U.S. cities with the most scheduled international service would be Tampa and Sacramento, both of which have service to Canada and Mexico. However, Raleigh-Durham does have international service to London via American Airlines. I don't know if AA considers RDU a hub, but the airlines does have quite a large operation at the airport.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 17, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6564 times:

LAX is a hub for United. BOS is a hub for no one.

Also, Delta no longer offers trans-con service out of BOS. That ended last September.



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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6534 times:

Spoke too soon...my mistake, LAX and BOS are not hubs according to AA. However, AA sure does have large operations at both those stations...

User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3130 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6536 times:

Well, after this nice little discussion on what a hub is, any more thoughts on the question at hand?



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User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6520 times:

I still vote for LAX


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User currently onlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5791 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6503 times:

LAX is out. It is a United hub.

From United's investor information:
UAL Corporation is the holding company for United Airlines, the second largest air carrier in the world. With hubs in Chicago, Denver, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Washington, D.C., and key international gateways in Tokyo, London, Frankfurt, Miami and Toronto, United flies to 117 destinations in 26 countries.

http://www.ual.com/page/framedpage/0,1449,1382,00.html



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User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6478 times:

What about USAirways at BOS? There seem to be a lot of them there.

What about Anchorage? Are they really a hub for Alaska Air? I haven't seen a lot of Alaska Air planes in pics at Anchorage. I know they get a lot of international stopovers.

I almost said Honolulu then realized Hawiian Air.

MCO is another that comes to mind with exception of their Delta Express operations. They have a decent amount of international service...

BA
Virgin
LTU
Martinaire
Air Atlanta
Air Canada
Air Transat
Air Mexico
Mexicana
COPA
Bahamasair
Caymen




User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6450 times:

ANC is definitely an AS hub - all the outlying Alaskan cities connect in ANC before heading anywhere else.

N


User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 6399 times:

BOS is neither a hub for Continental or Delta. The hub airports are:

American (ORD, DFW, MIA, STL, SJU)
United (ORD, IAD, SFO, LAX, DEN)
Delta (ATL, CVG, DFW, SLC)
Northwest (MSP, DTW, MEM)
Continental (IAH, EWR, CLE)
US Airways (CLT, PIT, PHL)
Southwest (no hubs...focus cities are MDW, PHX, OAK, BNA, PVD, DAL)
America West (PHX, LAS, CMH)
Alaska Airlines/Horizon Air (SEA)
Midwest Express (MKE)

ContinentalEWR


25 Gigneil : Southwest obviously operates a focus city at BWI as well, and Alaska without question has a hub at ANC. Delta also clearly operates a hub at JFK. N
26 HlywdCatft : There's a book called the Big 6 Airlines and I am quite sure they put BOS as a USAirways Hub
27 ConcordeBoy : You guys are confusing the definition of the word "hub" with the definition of "fortress hub". By TECHNICAL DEFINITION, DL does operate a hub system a
28 MAH4546 : Of the non-hub and non-international gateway cities (i.e. LAX, JFK, BOS, MCO), my guess for the U.S. cities with the most scheduled international serv
29 United777 : Seatle Northwest Airlines - Tokyo, Osaka, Amsterdam United Airlines - Tokyo Alaska Airlines - Canada and Mexico Horizon Air - Canada EVA Airways - Tai
30 Gigneil : Yes, but. SEA is an Alaska hub, arguably the more important one. Heh this is a hard topic - most airports with substantial international service are u
31 Captaink : Boston is definelty not a hub for US Airways. They may have a lot of flights to boston, from PIT, PHL and CLT and of course the hourly shuttle flights
32 Zrs70 : Jury is still out! I stick with BOS.
33 UN_B732 : Hi! I think that BOS is more of a commuter hub for the commuter airlines, as is LGA and some other destinations. Commuter Hubs aren't neccessarily big
34 Travelin man : This topic is confusing. Which US non-hub airports have the most international service (not number of flights but number of airlines)? If it is the nu
35 N766UA : Definatly BOS. There are alot of airlines with large operations there- AA and US for instance- but nobody has a hub. MCO has quite a bit too but not a
36 MAH4546 : I think MCO probably wins so far, in my view MCO? Are you kidding me? They do not have that much international service. More than average, and some ra
37 HlywdCatft : **MCO? Are you kidding me? They do not have that much international service. More than average, and some rarer destinations, like PTY, but often with
38 OzarkD9S : Turn it around and ask which US hub has the LEAST amount of international service? STL: LGW CUN YYZ 3 destinations, two international carriers :AA AC
39 N766UA : CLE: YYZ, YUL, CUN, NAS, LGW.
40 Gigneil : STL and CLE may be the winners - but in terms of hub size vs international operations, its probably DEN. N
41 ContinentalEWR : GIGNEIL, JFK is not a hub for Delta. Delta has about 60-70 flights a day out of JFK and it is a primary gateway to Europe, but very little traffic at
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