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Air Seychelles Moving To Heathrow  
User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3051 times:

Schedules from Mahe to London Heathrow as follows :
HM002 SEZ 1030-1800 LHR (Sun)
HM010 SEZ 1100-2000 LHR (Thu)
Schedules from London Heathrow to Mahe as follows :
HM001 LHR 2015-0925 SEZ (Sun)
HM009 LHR 1550-0655 SEZ (Fri)
Flights will be operated with a Boeing 767-300. Courtesy justplanes.com.

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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3023 times:

Anyone come up with a reason for the move?

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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3009 times:

More convinient perhaps? I think the handful of Asian, African and South American carriers left at Gatwick should also transfer to LHR. Can anyone list these airlines here? I know Garuda Indonesia and Emirates are the only ones left from Asia.


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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3001 times:
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Anyone come up with a reason for the move?

Status, greater access to connecting traffic than Gatwick, better ability to compete with British Airways which recently moved their flights from Gatwick to Heathrow, plue Heathrow enjoys better yields than Gatwick as an O&D airport.

Air Seychelles joins the likes of Air New Zealand, ANA All Nippon, Cathay Pacific, Emirates, EVA Air, Qatar Airways and Royal Brunei who have all in the past transferred their London services from Gatwick to Heathrow. Hard to believe now, but for years major carriers like Air New Zealand and Cathay Pacific couldn't get access to Heathrow. Emirates have since returned to Gatwick when they were unable to gain further slots to expand Heathrow services...

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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2987 times:

Philippine Airlines was also at Gatwick till the early 90's, they also moved to LHR before being hit by financial crisis due to which their European operation was suspended.


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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

Also Srilankan Airlines transferred to LHR. What about Royal Nepal?


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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2968 times:

Pardon this, with regards to matters like this the London area airports definitely a giant blank spot to me...

Isn't LHR also already massively overcrowded/slot-controlled as it is? How can carriers keep abandoning LGW to go to LHR? When does the line get drawn for carriers to stop abandoning LGW?

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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2954 times:

It's been the other way round a bit lately(LHR-> LGW)

User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2951 times:
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Yes, Heathrow is very congested, which is why a lot of airlines have operated into Gatwick due to problems obtaining slots of Heathrow to access the London market.

Once airlines they have built a presence at Gatwick their thoughts often turn to Heathrow access and it usually takes several years of negotiation and bargaining with Airport Coordination and other airlines to get the slots to count a viable service from Heathrow.

The airline airlines moving from Gatwick to Heathrow listed above have done so over the last decade, so there aren't exactly a huge of services being transferred on an annual basis. Air Seychelles only required 4 LHR slots per week to move their flights, and these are all in off-peak periods.

There is no line that can be drawn regarding transfer of flights from LGW to LHR. If an airline can obtain suitable Heathrow slots and the bilateral air service agreement involved allows it, then that airline is free to transfer services from LGW to LHR. Similarly the reverse is true, Heathrow slots are very valuble, there was talk in April of British Airways buying LHR slots from Lithuanian Airlines, Balkan Airlines, Adria and Avianca in exchange for Gatwick slots and cash to allow expansion of their main hub.

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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

Thanks for the explanation...

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User currently offlineBritair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 1999, 933 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2850 times:

Fantastic! I love Air Seychelles....flew them last year out of LGW - thank god they're moving to LHR (my nearest airport) for when I go back again this year. The Seychelles are stunning (my favourite holiday destination) and Air Seychelles nonstop flight is great.  Smile

Any idea which terminal at Heathrow they'll be serving?


User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

LHR seems more suited as a 'flag carrier' airport dont you think?


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User currently offlineB-HOP From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2000, 634 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

I think CX, NZ,KE,NH, VS etc gain access to Heathrow because the UK government remove most 'grandfather' right from BA as sole operators from Heathrow for those routes in 1991.

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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2823 times:
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Royal Nepal still serve LGW, not LHR.




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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2770 times:

Heres the list for Gatwick from OAG Oct '97 edition;

Cubana (also at Stansted)
Trans Brazil (defunct)
Azerbaijan Airlines
Uganda Airlines
Air Gabon
Air Mauritius (also at Heathrow)
Emirates
Yemenia
Garuda Indonesia
Royal Nepal

Avianca have moved back too, they were at LHR then, former Asian Air Maldives were also there, anyways not too many non-Western carriers left at LGW. Surprisingly Turkmenistan Airlines, Uzbekistan Airways and Air Namibia are also at LHR.



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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2694 times:

Sorry its Cameroon Airlines and not Uganda that are at LGW.


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