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Will MAS Retire The 737's Soon?  
User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3016 times:

Will Malaysia Airlines retire it's 734 fleet soon on all domestic routes? I know recently it was announced they will start A330-200 from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore instead of the 734.

Do you think MAS will go for the 737NG's or A320 family to replace it's domestic aircraft? I think MAS could be a good airline for the 737-900 or 737-900X.

How old are the 737-400's in the fleet?

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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3010 times:

If I'm not mistaken, they're gonna lease a few more 737s.

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User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3014 times:

Another quick question about MAS. Do they plan to any North American expansion like bringing back VYR?

User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3001 times:

Correction to my last post. MAS flew to YVR (Vancouver).

User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

I can say with confident that the B734 have some more life with MAS... the oldest is only 13 years old albeit with high cycles and hours... They are in the slow process of refurbishing their cabins...

As for N. Am expansion they have said before that SFO might be a choice and ORD and BOS (i see less possibility) but for their EWR service they are already going to double the frequency of that flight and probably even change the city to stop at (currently the plane stops at DXB)


User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2926 times:

I would agree on Airbus Lovers comment regarding the MAS 734. I don't think that it is their first priority to replace them.

Just to note that MAS 734 are not only operated on domestic flights. They also fly it to MNL, DPS, HKT, PNH, SGN, HAN, RGN, HKG, CEB, MNL, BWN, etc

I rather would see them to replace F50 or DHT's.



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User currently offlineTriple Seven From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

MAS 737s will still be around for some time. Last I heard about replacing them came before the Asian financial crisis when Airbus was on the lead to supply MAS with 63 A320s. Obviously that plan has already been scrapped. I do hope that when time comes the 737NGs will be selected instead.

User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2861 times:

United777: MAS suspended its services into YVR in 1998 and don't have any plans to resume their services there. SFO was supposed to be launched in 1997, but had been postponed indefintely due to the financial crisis that struck SE Asia that time. Now that they are expanding rapidly in Asia, I have a hunch that they are preparing just to get more frequencies regionally first before having more inter-continental destinations. There are a lot of traffic between San Francisco and Bagalore in India and with the recent expansion in India, this might actually lead MAS to launch services to SFO. However, they probably need to negotiate with other countries regarding fifth freedom traffic.

As Airbus Lover ha already mentioned, MAS aspire to serve BOS and ORD in the medium term. They probably want to concentrate on EWR first. They need to provide daily service out of New York first to get a stonghold of the North East before expanding to other destinations. A lot of traffic ex-Chicago, Boston, Washington DC and Philadelphia are routed via Newark. Also, they probably change the stop over destination. Although it's a pretty popular route for passengers, but going via Dubai is not feasible if there's war going on in the Middle East (Iraq).


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16245 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2854 times:

What's the rush? The 734 is still a relatively young aircraft.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineRupertvander82 From France, joined Dec 2002, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

I don't think MAS can support a BOS or ORD flight. I've heard rumours that SQ's AMS-ORD route is pretty shaky, and SQ already has a big presence in US. It'll be difficult for MAS to fill up seats if they are to fly to ORD, moreover BOS!

User currently offlineGuyBetsy1 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 839 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Before MH launches or relaunches ANY route, they HAVE to join a major alliance first.

MH has always said that it can soldier along alone but without a major alliance, MH is seeing traffic fleeing to either SQ or TG , competitors both south and north of Malaysia.

A good match would be OneWorld. Seeing that only CX serves Malaysia, it would be a good addition to oneWorld.


User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

GuyBetsy1
MAS always preferred to have codeshare flights with a lot of different carriers iso join an alliance. There have been talks going on a few years ago with KLM, Qantas and Swissair (with Alitalia?) but no results.

I fully agree that MAS would fit into Oneworld and maybe Sky Team as well but I don't see MAS joining any alliance this year.



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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2782 times:

I do really hope they join an alliance but after joining one alliance you still can code share with other carriers, cant you/

but after joining one alliance i would see many airlines routing their pax via KUL to get on a MAS flight?


User currently offlineRupertvander82 From France, joined Dec 2002, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

I think Austrian still code shares with MAS, even though they are part of Star, when they could have done the code sharing with SQ or Thai.

Till they join an alliance, they still have one of the worst FFP for such a major airline!


User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

Rupertvander82
Fully agree to what you said regarding MAS's FFP. You should go for KLM's or Swiss's FFP and than you don't have any problems.



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User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2726 times:

Rupertvander82: MAS' plan to serve BOS and ORD is still a pretty long way to go. If they indeed plan to serve these destinations, I would believe that it ill be another good 3 to 4 years away, at least. They probably want to serve SFO first as well as increasing their frequency into EWR before serving these two destinations.

As far as Austrian Airlines is concerned, their code-share pact was signed before they join the Star Alliance. And it wouldn't be advisable to shift their hub from KUL to BKK or SIN jsut because they are in Star Alliance. Why fix it when it ain't broken? If and only if MAS join Oneworld, I don't foresee BA and Qantas shifting their hub from Bangkok and Singapore to Kuala Lumpur as well just for the sake of changing. QF/BA hub is huge in Singapore and shifting it to KUL will incur huge cash outflow for both company!

I definitely agree with you regarding their FFP though. You need to fly Business or First before you can qualify for elite status and only MAS flights qualify for elite status. Plus, their mileage calculations are in kilometers instead of the usual miles! Not to mention the lack of air partners.


User currently offlineMas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2660 times:

Agree with comments about MAS Esteemed Traveller - ditched it almost as soon as my card arrived through the post. KLMs Flying Dutchman and NWA's Worldperks is a much better bet for gaining mileage and spending those points. MAS is a full partner of both of them so they treat all MAS flights as their own.

MAS would only join OneWorld as a final resort (in my opinion), as many of the main carriers (except Cathay Pacific) have had very sour ties with MAS. Having flown through AMS this weekend, it was nice to see and MAS 777 amongst the KLM and NWA fleet at Schiphol - a sign of the future indeed.

Whether KLM,NWA,CO become part of Skyteam and MAS too if that was the case remains to be seen but that would be MAS' ideal choice - to continue working with KLM its main European partner for a few years now.

MAS' 737s are here to stay for some time - they have been a fantastic fleet for reliability and cost-effectiveness for MAS - so they would see some life left with the new cabin interiors fitted.



User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

With NW Worldperks or KL Flying Dutchman or LX Qualiflyer, are points accumulated from MH flights accounted toward the elite status? and that u get 125% for flying Business Class?

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