Airbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2612 times:
I can say with confident that the B734 have some more life with MAS... the oldest is only 13 years old albeit with high cycles and hours... They are in the slow process of refurbishing their cabins...
As for N. Am expansion they have said before that SFO might be a choice and ORD and BOS (i see less possibility) but for their EWR service they are already going to double the frequency of that flight and probably even change the city to stop at (currently the plane stops at DXB)
Triple Seven From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 527 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2549 times:
MAS 737s will still be around for some time. Last I heard about replacing them came before the Asian financial crisis when Airbus was on the lead to supply MAS with 63 A320s. Obviously that plan has already been scrapped. I do hope that when time comes the 737NGs will be selected instead.
OdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2517 times:
United777: MAS suspended its services into YVR in 1998 and don't have any plans to resume their services there. SFO was supposed to be launched in 1997, but had been postponed indefintely due to the financial crisis that struck SE Asia that time. Now that they are expanding rapidly in Asia, I have a hunch that they are preparing just to get more frequencies regionally first before having more inter-continental destinations. There are a lot of traffic between San Francisco and Bagalore in India and with the recent expansion in India, this might actually lead MAS to launch services to SFO. However, they probably need to negotiate with other countries regarding fifth freedom traffic.
As Airbus Lover ha already mentioned, MAS aspire to serve BOS and ORD in the medium term. They probably want to concentrate on EWR first. They need to provide daily service out of New York first to get a stonghold of the North East before expanding to other destinations. A lot of traffic ex-Chicago, Boston, Washington DC and Philadelphia are routed via Newark. Also, they probably change the stop over destination. Although it's a pretty popular route for passengers, but going via Dubai is not feasible if there's war going on in the Middle East (Iraq).
Rupertvander82 From France, joined Dec 2002, 411 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2492 times:
I don't think MAS can support a BOS or ORD flight. I've heard rumours that SQ's AMS-ORD route is pretty shaky, and SQ already has a big presence in US. It'll be difficult for MAS to fill up seats if they are to fly to ORD, moreover BOS!
Swissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 35 Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2451 times:
MAS always preferred to have codeshare flights with a lot of different carriers iso join an alliance. There have been talks going on a few years ago with KLM, Qantas and Swissair (with Alitalia?) but no results.
I fully agree that MAS would fit into Oneworld and maybe Sky Team as well but I don't see MAS joining any alliance this year.
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OdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2382 times:
Rupertvander82: MAS' plan to serve BOS and ORD is still a pretty long way to go. If they indeed plan to serve these destinations, I would believe that it ill be another good 3 to 4 years away, at least. They probably want to serve SFO first as well as increasing their frequency into EWR before serving these two destinations.
As far as Austrian Airlines is concerned, their code-share pact was signed before they join the Star Alliance. And it wouldn't be advisable to shift their hub from KUL to BKK or SIN jsut because they are in Star Alliance. Why fix it when it ain't broken? If and only if MAS join Oneworld, I don't foresee BA and Qantas shifting their hub from Bangkok and Singapore to Kuala Lumpur as well just for the sake of changing. QF/BA hub is huge in Singapore and shifting it to KUL will incur huge cash outflow for both company!
I definitely agree with you regarding their FFP though. You need to fly Business or First before you can qualify for elite status and only MAS flights qualify for elite status. Plus, their mileage calculations are in kilometers instead of the usual miles! Not to mention the lack of air partners.
Mas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2926 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 2316 times:
Agree with comments about MAS Esteemed Traveller - ditched it almost as soon as my card arrived through the post. KLMs Flying Dutchman and NWA's Worldperks is a much better bet for gaining mileage and spending those points. MAS is a full partner of both of them so they treat all MAS flights as their own.
MAS would only join OneWorld as a final resort (in my opinion), as many of the main carriers (except Cathay Pacific) have had very sour ties with MAS. Having flown through AMS this weekend, it was nice to see and MAS 777 amongst the KLM and NWA fleet at Schiphol - a sign of the future indeed.
Whether KLM,NWA,CO become part of Skyteam and MAS too if that was the case remains to be seen but that would be MAS' ideal choice - to continue working with KLM its main European partner for a few years now.
MAS' 737s are here to stay for some time - they have been a fantastic fleet for reliability and cost-effectiveness for MAS - so they would see some life left with the new cabin interiors fitted.