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User currently offlineFLYING MACHINE From Spain, joined May 2002, 223 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3755 times:

The Space Shuttle fleet where 6 "space machines". We know how ended the Challenger and Columbia but I remember one shuttle named Enterprise.What happened whit this one?

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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3740 times:

Smithsonian has it.

Techically it isn't a shuttle but an "aerodynamic prototype" for one.

It was only intended for glide testing and never flew into space since it lacks the systems.



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User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2589 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3630 times:

Enterprise [as I understand it] was a full scale drop-test vehicle, launched from the NASA 747. It was also used as a mock up to test all sorts of components and assembly procedures, including stack up of the complete vehicle assembly in the VAB [Vehicle Asembly Building], and to test trailer and launch pad items/procedures.
It is, and can't be converted to a space going vehicle.

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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3566 times:

It's at Dulles airport where it will become part of the new Smithsonian musuem there, I watched it arrive on a 747 back when I was living in Virginia about 16-17 years ago.


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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3551 times:

I believe the only 2 fully operational shuttles left are Atlantis and Discovery.

But I could be mistaken.



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User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3549 times:

Wierd, I was just talking to someone about the Enterprise yesterday too. They didn't believe me that there was such a Shuttle called that.

Yes it was only launched off of the 747 a couple of times at Edwards.


User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3544 times:

What is the 6th Shuttle?

Enterprise
Challenger
Columbia
Discovery
Atlantis

what is the 6th?


User currently offlineSptv From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3539 times:

I believe there's a third, ENDEAVOR.

User currently offlineToady From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3535 times:

6th shuttle: Endeavour

User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3527 times:

Atlantis, Discovery & Endeavour are the only three operational shuttlecrafts left. Enterprise is the prototype, and cannot be a space-vehicle. She wasn't built to withstand the travels & stress of space flight. Regards.


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User currently offlineTrident From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 484 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3439 times:

It was originally intended that Enterprise (c/n OV-100) would be totally refurbished and made space worthy after the drop and glide tests in 1977. Another Shuttle (OV-099) was built as a Static Test Article (STA) and was used for heat and vibration tests in 1978/79. When the costs of getting Enterprise ready for space were calculated, it was decided that OV-099 would be cheaper and easier to make spaceworthy. OV-099 became Challenger.

Top be honest, costs and budget considerations have played far to large a role in determining many aspects of the Shuttle programme. Decisions made 30 years ago are coming home to roost.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3412 times:

Way back in 1984, I remember seeing the "Enterprise" at the New Orleans World's Fair. I was only 5 at the time, but I recall how popular it was...it was all lit up at night, very gorgeous sight. It had it's own exhibit there, and it stayed for the entire 6 month duration of the fair.

Steve in New Orleans (Space Camp graduate: class of 1989)  Smile


User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2109 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

Here's a scan of an old post card I got from the JFK space center back in 1980, before the very first launch. Note that the plane was an ex-American 747.





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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3361 times:

When I went to Cape Canaveral in 1997, I remember there being a space-shuttle on display for visitors to enter. I know it was not one of the then-four spaceworthy (Columbia, Endeavor, Atlantis, Discovery), so was it the Enterprise or did NASA just create a mock-up for this?

Jeff


User currently onlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13753 posts, RR: 61
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3344 times:
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NASA has a full-scale mockup on display at the Marshall Space Flight Center near the Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, AL. The given name to this shuttle is "Pathfinder."


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User currently offlineTrident From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 484 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3308 times:

The Shuttle at the Kennedy Space Centre is also a full size mock up. Enterprise is held in reserve for the National Air and Space Museum.

User currently offlineSalina Chan From Singapore, joined Jul 2001, 123 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3299 times:

this is a list of all shuttle(-like) vehicles which are out there, the one at KSC is the Explorer

http://aesp.nasa.okstate.edu/fieldguide/pages/orbiter/index.html

Salina


User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

Don't forget Buran, the Russian shuttle clone which flew (unmanned) from the Energia launch vehicle.

User currently offlineFLYING MACHINE From Spain, joined May 2002, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3201 times:

Thank you for your reply !
Flying Machine.


User currently offlineClipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3113 times:
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According to this morning's San Antonio newspaper there was a 7th shuttle.

"Pathfinder" (1977) was a 75-ton steel mock-up used to work out procedures for moving and handling the shuttle. A japanese businessman spent $1 million modifying it to look more like a shuttle and displayed it at a Tokyo exposition. Now it is on display at the space museum in Huntsville, Alabama.


User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2109 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

My link for my Enterprise postcard scan did not work, so try this one.


Shuttle Enterprise leaving the 747




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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3079 times:

Here are the shuttle names

Operational:
Endeavour, Atlantis, Discovery

Mock up:
Explorer (KSC), Enterprise(Test Vehicle), Pathfinder (MSC)

Lost:
Challenger, Columbia

[Edited 2003-02-03 00:44:50]

User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

The shuttles in order of their entry into service are/were:

1). Columbia
2). Challenger
3). Discover
4). Atlantis
5). Endeavor - Replacement for the Challenger

The Enterprise was a prototype.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2984 times:

So the Endeavor was built post 1986?

How often is it used? I don't recall hearing it used much.


User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3017 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2977 times:

My link for my Enterprise postcard scan did not work, so try this one.


Shuttle Enterprise leaving the 747


Did anyone else notice the additional tail piece on that 747?



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25 DeltaAir : Endeavor was built in 1991 as a replacement for the Challenger. If NASA does get a boost in funds, which it needs, hopefully it will go towards the de
26 Lt-AWACS : Endeavor has flown often over the last few years, especially since Columbia was in 'depot' for the last 17 months for upgrade. Sidenote: There are sev
27 Shaun3000 : Regarding the 747: As far as I know, they still use that 747, but have finally repainted the entire thing. The tail piece is still on the 747. It is t
28 Shaun3000 : I was reading the page linked by Salina Chan and noticed this bit next to Challenger: Not on public display - stored in underground missle silo Anyone
29 Navion : Columbia flew 28 missions (she was refit extensively 2 years ago), Challenger flew 10 missions, Discovery has flown 30 missions, Atlantis has flown 26
30 B757300 : They recovered a very large amount of Challenger, probably far more than will ever be found of Columbia. Challenger, exploded @ a much lower altitude
31 Lt-AWACS : anyone remember the big pieces of Challenger that washed ashore around 1996. Sad. Sidentoe II: ONe of the original 'Vomit comits' KC-135s is on static
32 COboeing777 : Lt-AWACS... 1996?? Did you mean to say 1986 or did pieces really wash up 10 yrs later? I can't imagine that actually happening... but if so I never he
33 Positive rate : A notable astronaut who piloted space shuttle Enterprise was Fred Haise of Apollo 13 fame. He flew a lot of the glide test flights in the late 1970's.
34 UALPHLCS : There is one space worthy shuttle that noone has mentioned. I wonder if it could be pressed into service. Buran, The Russian space shuttle from my und
35 Post contains links Spacepope : No, Lt-AWACS is correct. Some quite large chunks ended up washing ashore just a couple of years ago. CNN has a link to the story, dated Dec. 17, 1996.
36 Post contains links and images AKelley728 : UALPHLCS: That's a big negative on the Buran. It's in no better shape than Columbia. A couple of couple of years ago the roof of the Baikonur Cosmodro
37 Gigneil : The ENERGIA was unique in that it was a liquid fuel launch vehicle. The SRBs for our shuttles are solid propellant. N
38 Post contains images NorthStarDC4M : minor correction: Enterprise is OV-101, there is no OV-100 Columbia was OV-102 Challenger was OV-099 Discovery is OV-103 Atlantis is OV-104 Endeavour
39 Spence : If I understand correctly, (and I may not) Certain Shuttles' are used for certain missions. What I mean is that all the Shuttles' are not equipped in
40 MSY-MSP : From what I know of the NASA missions, the break downs of the shuttles is as follows. Enterprise -- Test bed vehicle, but intended to be spacewothy af
41 MD-90 : (As drolly as possible) You know, I think if NASA asked for the Enterprise back and planned to do something with it, I think that the Smithsonian woul
42 Positive rate : I've oticed that most of the long duration missions have been flown by Columbia, since Columbia is the "science" shuttle. If you look at Columbias' pr
43 9V-SVE : Before Challenger exploded, NASA was planning to launch from both KSC & VAFB. They then introduced a new mission numbering system, such as 51-J, which
44 Positive rate : There was 1 shuttle mission that DID land at White Sands i'm sure of this. Can anyone else verify this??? I think it was Columbia or Discovery that la
45 Trident : Mission STS-3 (Columbia) landed at White Sands after 8 days in space on 30 March 1982. The crew were Gordon Fullerton and Jack Lousma. Edwards could n
46 SINLOCK : Someone was asking about special missions. Endevour tends to be used for more heavy lift missions (ISS moduals) because is about 15% lighter that Atla
47 Srbmod : The plans prior to the Challenger accident in 1986 was that later on that year, Atlantis was to be based at the launch site at Vandenberg AFB, since i
48 Gordonroxburgh : Endeavour was built using the parts that NASA had originally ordered on the long term plan of having 5 shuttles (Enterprise, Columbia, Discovery, Atla
49 Post contains links Areopagus : Initial empty weights without engines, in pounds: Columbia 158,289 Challenger 155,400 Discovery 151,419 Atlantis 151,315 Endeavour 151,205 Source: htt
50 Lubcha132 : About the storing of Challenger in the old silos- they also did that with apollo 1, and they left the launch pad to rot.
51 AvObserver : Though I consider it an unlikely prospect even if it were feasible, if NASA desperately needed another shuttle, would it be possible to rebuild Enterp
52 AKelley728 : AvObserver: I've been thinking the same thing. However, I heard that Enterprise had alot of corrosion (from where, I don't know), that would make it i
53 Navion : The missile silo in which the Apollo 1/Challenger debris is stored is the deactivated Minuteman missle test silo facility on the Cape Canaveral Air Fo
54 USAFHummer : To comment on the Enterprise thing, back after the Challenger incident NASA did in fact look at refitting Enterprise and making it capable of spacefli
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