Qantaspower From Australia, joined Aug 2002, 516 posts, RR: 7 Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2341 times:
Hi,
Do you think it is possible that Qantas will re-commence Sydney to San Francisco flights in the medium term. I am thinking that maybe a 2 class 744 could make the route viable.
Airlines such as SIA, Cathay etc have all retained San Francisco as part of their networks and remains an important gateway to the USA. I think it was a bad decision for QF to abandon this route.
I think it would be very successful if re-started.
Ryu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 460 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2266 times:
QANTAS pulled out because UA started its SFO-SYD route. But before UA started it, the QANTAS SFO flight was popular. I think that if UA goes under, QANTAS will start SYD-SFO again.
Airlanka From Australia, joined Oct 1999, 175 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2254 times:
Of course, because I am tired of flying UA. Although UA is a good airline I prefer QF if they fly the route(better seats -service). And many other people like me who go to silicon valley often would do the same.
Lubcha132 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2776 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2226 times:
well it depends how competitive QF is. If they want to capitalize on UA's possible sinking, they'll reopen it now and salt the wounds. Also, with the new long range 747s it should be easier..they're getting those right?
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2215 times:
They have some 747-400ERs already, but those planes really aren't of substantially greater range. They do allow QF to uplift more cargo and pax I'm sure.
San Francisco is closer to SYD than LAX is by about 250 nmi.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2153 times:
Heh honestly it'd make more sense to fly to SJC.
UA flies to SFO because they have a strong hub there. QF gets feed from AA at LAX. QF would get no feed at SFO at all, and who knows if there's sufficient demand for SFO O/D traffic.
Al From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 593 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2079 times:
In a word, no. Why fragment the market when there is now a very good "mini-hub" operating at LAX. AA and AS feed at LAX is far better than they have at SFO.
I'd imagine LAX will be developed much more before SFO is considered again.
Then again, some lateral thinking like a SYD-SFO-YYZ a few days a week may work, especially when Mapleflot stop their YYZ-HNL nonstops in May, although the two nonstops AA currently provide between YYZ and LAX seem adequate. QF also has fifth-freedom from SFO to Canada (something they don't have the advantage of at LAX) which could help make such a service viable.
Cheers.
Ex_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1435 posts, RR: 6 Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1882 times:
There are probably enough free-spending gay boyz flying between the two cities to make this a lucrative route
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1837 times:
How huge of restrictions? It has an 11,000 foot runway at sea level. I think that's perfectly adequate.
Al From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 593 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1691 times:
The issue for Qantas is slots at SFO, they were given up by the previous CEO adn are not available again until 2006, depending on United's outcome.
Can you elaborate on this a tad? SFO has no slot program in place, (never has) and is currently actively marketing for extra carriers/routes to serve the airport. Am not sure if you mean there is something on the bilateral stopping them from serving SFO, but even there I can't see anything that would suggest so. The current bi-lateral between Oz & the USA allows for multiple carriers from each country to serve points in the other country with no limitations on aircraft types. (A minimum of four return frequencies per week must be flown on the South Pacific passenger routes and a minimum of three return frequencies per week must be flown on the North Pacific pasenger routes. A limitation of 4 DC10 or equivalent applies to the 3rd approved route, the Guam/Marianas).
Al From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 593 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1609 times:
AJ ????
You mighta missed this - the thread sorta dropped off the "current" list very quickly. Am genuinely curious on this slot problem you mentioned and am interested to learn more on what it actually is, given SFO has no slot controls or slot programme in place.
Cheers again.
FrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1201 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1537 times:
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1509 times:
FrequentFlyKid-
No. That's backwards. SFO-SYD is 7416 mi, and SFO-LAX is 7487 mi.
AndrewAir From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 361 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1493 times:
Mx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1494 times:
Guys,
Given the current threat of war and a possible terrorist backlash - I'd say it would be prudent for QF to watch these things pan out first before launching new routes. Give the sister city status with SYD/SFO, the big gay populations and both being prime tourist destinations QF could probably make it work, especially with a sevice to YYZ.
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