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Upper Deck On 747 Freighters.  
User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4442 times:

Hi folks.....
Anyone know what is the upper deck is used for on the pure freighter version of the 747? Are there any seats or sleeper-beds for the flight crew? Perhaps they use the space for small, portable pieces of freight, such as live animals & parcels? All replies welcomed. Regards.


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User currently offlineGmonney From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2159 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4424 times:

Yes there are seats up there for transportation of staff. If you think about it....on a normal 747 there are stairs...i don't think there are stairs on a 747F, just a ladder....the pilots have to get up there some how...I think if there were stairs, there wouldn't be room to front load cargo


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Or, the upperdeck door is opened...but i believe they enter from the normal door...see the air stairs there...

Have a look at some more pics....just do a search, 747/cargo....answers a lot of my questions!!

Grant

P.S. Happy searching!



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User currently offlineGmonney From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2159 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4417 times:

Opps, better photo here!!


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Grant



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User currently offlineEjazz From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2002, 718 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4387 times:

Our B747-400 freighters have a ladder which is retracted at times to aid in cargo loading. The upper deck houses 6 business class seats, a galley, 2 bunks and a host of emergency equipment. The seats are there for such people as animal handlers, who are required to occupy a seat during take-off and landing.

Cheers.



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

The suggested seating arrangement for the A380F features about 12-16 sleeper type business class seats.

Frequently cargo requires some kind of special handler, not even just animals but other sensitive items.

As we learned in Cast Away, FedEx even ships their employees Priority Overnight.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7929 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4318 times:

I'm not surprised at the fact the A380-800F will have 12-16 Business class type seats. I believe that certain types of payloads the A388F carries requires a handler to accompany the cargo for various reasons, and having near-flat or flat-reclining roomier seats is a good idea for cargo handler accommodation given A388F flights will be longer in duration than 747-400F or MD-11F flights.

User currently offlineKAL_LM From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 497 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4283 times:

On our 744Fs we have 6 biz class seats and 2 sleeping bunks. Our 742Fs have seating for 3 (cattle class seats) and 2 bunks as well. While our 743F has 8 seats and 2 bunks. Some airlines do it differently (I know that Atlas only has 4 seats), but I believe that this is pretty standard.

And yes, there is a retractable ladder on al of them, so we can load cargo underneath the upper deck.

regards,
Tom



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4273 times:

When I worked at Fedex & they still had 741/742 aircraft, there were 18 seats in the upper deck.


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1558 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4202 times:

A shot of the ladder up to the upper deck:

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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4343 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3985 times:

Years ago (mid 80s), Flying Tigers' 747s had seats up top, and they allowed OA employees to non-rev up there. It was a great way to get from ANC to HKG, NRT, etc. Course you had to bring your own food and stuff, but it was still a unique way to travel.


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User currently offlineToady From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3946 times:

Great picture posted by Lapper. But look at the photographer's name - shouldn't it be Tony Double-Decker? Big grin

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