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User currently offlineClipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2021 times:
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Only the second time that the military has mobilized the Civil Reserve Air Fleet...

The current CRAF allocation can be seen thru this link...
http://www.rspa.dot.gov/oet/craf/index.html

Twenty-two airlines and their 78 commercial aircraft -- 47 passengers aircraft and 31 wide-body cargo carriers -- are covered under the "Stage 1" activation. Stage 1 is the lowest activation level. Stage 2 would involve more aircraft for a major regional conflict and Stage 3 could be declared for a full-fledged national mobilization.

The passenger participants in the initial stage are American Airlines, American Trans Air, Continental Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Hawaiian Airlines, North American Airlines, Northwest Airlines, Omni Air International, United Airlines, US Airways and World Airways.

The cargo participants are Airborne Express, Air Transport International, Arrow Air, Atlas Air, DHL Airways, Evergreen International Airlines, FedEx, Gemini Air Cargo, Northwest Airlines, Omni Air International, Polar Air Cargo, Southern Air, UPS, and World Airways.


http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030208/iraq_usa_airfleet_1.html

[Edited 2003-02-09 04:25:39]

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User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

Would this be for in case of war to move the troops?

Wasn't this done in 1991 with Tower Air and Pan Am for moving troops?


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

Its getting closer. I say we're going between March 2nd and March 4th.


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User currently offlineClipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1909 times:
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Yep, Pan Am and Tower transported troops during the first activation in 1990/1.

User currently offlineCloudy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1882 times:

How much do ya all think this move will help the airlines?

User currently offlineDrdivo From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1855 times:

It won't help them - they don't make much, if any, money flying these charters. The Feds hook them in with financing terms on some of their aircraft, and ka-whammo, off they go. In Gulf War I, PanAm's entire 747 fleet (as I recall) was taken over, as they had sought Reserve Fleet financing to secure their 747 fleet and pay for upgrades/mods.

Which is why we saw so many of GWI soldiers stepping out of Clippers.



Respectfully - the Divo
User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

There's a website where you can look at the list of these aircraft in "Stage 3" mobilization. Quite a few 777's from AA and UA, as well as 744's from UA and NW. God, I actually was looking at it and got chills. Could you imagine all of those being used for military?

UAL747


User currently offlineClipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1765 times:
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Drdivo, in the case of Pan Am, NOT all of their 747's were a part of the CRAF.

At the time of Gulf War I, 18 of the 35 747's in the fleet were allocated to the CRAF. However, I don't believe all 18 were used during the airlift operation.

[Edited 2003-02-09 15:52:34]

User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1691 times:

The CRAF list for flight attendants opened for bidding the other week at United...

Operation Desert Shield/Storm flights not only flew from the US to Europe, but mainly from Brussels to Riyadh with a five day layover in Brussels. Scary part was when all the crew were issued gasmasks on their way in.

Just pray to St. Bona (patron saint of flight attendants) that everyone makes it back safely.

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineClipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1610 times:
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I also remember that Germany was a stopping point on the way to the Gulf in 1990-91.

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