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Delta Picks Up Some HP Routes; Adds JFK And FLL  
User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4257 times:

"http://www.10tv.com/news/archive/021203local4233.php?story=021203local4233">Delta adds routes



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User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4161 times:

er, I think my HTML is messsed up. News conference is at 10:30am.

"http://www.10tv.com/news/archive/021203local4233.php?story=021203local4233">Delta Adds service


User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4145 times:

Someone fix my HTML please. :p

User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4075 times:

I think there's some problem with A.net scripting of HTML or something? Many codes doesnt seem to work!

User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3813 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4014 times:

Let me try:

http://www.10tv.com/news/archive/021203local4233.php?story=021203local4233

LoneStarMike

User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3813 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3978 times:

Yay! It worked.

There's a thread in the site related forum related to the HTMLproblem. Johan wrote:

The thingy around links has been removed. Now you'll simply have to post the link, that will work.

That's what I did- I just typed in the URL WITHOUT the brackets on either side and that seems to work.

LoneStarMike

User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3979 times:

Sounds like pretty good news for CMH.


"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6605 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3965 times:

Looks like most of my predictions came true.

The long sought after CMH-FLL will finally materialize. The CMH-JFK route is interesting. I think AA had tried it in the past, but with no success. I wonder if DL will be any luckier. The extra feed certainly can't hurt as the JFK-Europe flights tend to have the weakest loads compared to CVG-Europe or ATL-Europe.


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32723 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3900 times:

I knew they would do CMH-FLL! Finally non-stop service from Columbus to Miami! Though I was hoping for MIA, it's still all good.


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User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3888 times:

Heh, proofread your post MAH. :p FLL was needed, and I agree, MIA needs nonstop service. I'm assuming all of these routes are with the ERJs?

User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

Going from no Florida service to serving both FLL and MIA would be a little overkill, no? Besides, I suspect that most CMH traffic will be headed to FLL anyways. The aiports are a lot closer in service if you remove the onward Latin/South America headed passengers.

Steve


User currently offlineTbird From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 851 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3837 times:

Greetings:

Well my question is how is Delta going to make money on these routes if America West didn't? I have to believe America West's cost structure is lower then Delta's. Can anyone shed light on this for me?

Regards
Tom


User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2277 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

This is definitely good news in light of America West's hub closure. I believe this shows that Columbus definitely has a strong O&D market and hub capabilities, especially when an airline with its second largest hub only a 2 hour drive away sees the possibility of making money on new routes from here. Hopefully Delta will move from their current location in Concourse C and move to America West's current gates in B. Their current location can't support the additional flights, and moving to Concourse B will allow them to use the regional jet gates America West installed.

This turn of events seems to mirror what happened in Raleigh-Durham about a year ago, after Midway closed their doors. American Airlines came in and started offering numerous new flights from RDU, partially filling the void left behind by Midway. Now all we need is for Delta to start a nonstop to London from CMH on a 777 like American does in RDU and we'll be all set...  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2277 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3809 times:

PortColumbus:

I believe MAH4546 is implying that the new FLL service will provide access to the Miami area, since FLL does serve as a Miami secondary airport as well as serving the needs of the Ft. Lauderdale area. Also, after reading the Dispatch article, I think all the new routes will be served by Chautauqua ERJ's.

Tbird:

Doug Parker did an interview with NewsCenter on ABC 6 after the announcement of the closure of the Columbus hub, stating that a main factor was the fact that there was heavy competition on many of America West's routes, especially from Delta. Delta and America West had been in a battle for market share in CMH for years. Now with America West gone, Delta will have more passengers on the routes they're taking over from America West, as well as seize the opportunity to pursue new routes from Columbus, such as JFK and Ft. Lauderdale.


User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2277 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3797 times:

Here's the official press release, it looks like as America West steps down service, Delta will gradually step up service. The release includes a schedule of all the new flights, to be operated by ERJ-145's:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030212/atw015_1.html


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7774 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3785 times:

Doesn't it seem ironic, that these routes will be likely operated by the same Chautaqua ERJs that America West was using??


Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6605 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3768 times:

While AWA failed to make CMH work, DL can because most of these routes are to places that are either DL hubs or places of major DL concentration.

CMH-DFW not only captures the O+D that CMH creates, but allows for onward connections in the DL system. CMH-JFK captures some of the O+D traffic plus allows for European connections. CMH-FLL fills in a major gap in service. CMH-BOS captures O+D traffic, plus a small number of connections to BDA, PWM, YUL, FCO (summertime),CDG (AF),etc.


I wonder where the other ERJ's will go? DL is receiving 12 ERJ's and it certainly won't take 12 planes to cover just these new CMH flights. Some will have to appear elsewhere....MCO I would presume.


User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2277 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

FlyPNS:

Any idea if Delta will be hiring new employees in Columbus?


User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3649 times:

Is it possible that DL picked up the routes out of fear that another carrier would make a major move into CMH? After all, DL's big CVG hub isn't far away.


"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3617 times:

I do think that was great to hear for CMH-FLL was reinstate and but, after remember used on DLX was flying nonstop to FLL only 1 daily roundtrip from last time. You guys that don't even remember of this one for CMH flight. Well, catch ya later!

Regards!


User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3546 times:

Sorry MAH.

FlyCMH has a good point. As reasons he stated, it seems like the perfect fit for DL to take over HP's gates. Definately some good news for CMH. Listening to 610 WTVN, they noted that other carriers are looking to expand service, and maybe we'll see the likes of AirTran and Frontier. It could happen.


User currently offlineFlybulldog From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3535 times:

I'd like to see more flights to Atlanta. At least lower the fares to be equal to Dayton. I know competition from AirTran keeps the fares lower in Dayton.

User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6605 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3514 times:

FlyCMH,

I don't know if DL will hire additional help for CMH. Logically, the additional flights will require more gates so DL would likely need a few more GA's. However, DL has so many people on furlough, I'm not sure how they will fill in any gaps. I think it is unlikely DL will hire any agents for check-in as DL is aggressively replacing those folks with kiosks and the agents from afar phone system.

I read today in the Columbus Biz Journal that expansion plans for CMH have now been cancelled.

I think AAI would be a good fit for CMH, though they would be going up against WN and DL on many of the Florida routes.


User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3417 times:

The article on 10tv - http://www.10tv.com/news/archive/021203local4233.php?story=021203local4233

Apparentely CMH is willing to eliminate landing fees and pay $50,000 in marketing costs for any new routes started. Hell, they are even trying to attract Hawaiian Airlines.


I might be way off, but by starting CMH-JFK, is DL trying to shut the door on JetBlue coming to CMH, or is it solely for international connections?


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 24, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3379 times:

Portcolumbus-

Probably a combination of both.

N


25 PROSA : I might be way off, but by starting CMH-JFK, is DL trying to shut the door on JetBlue coming to CMH, or is it solely for international connections? I'
26 DeltaRules : Interesting deal & good to see Delta expand at my home airport with service to DFW, FLL, RSW, BOS, and finally JFK, but I guess we can officially be c
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