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Fedex And UPS Uld's  
User currently offlineMikeclod From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 272 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 9884 times:

Hello, I'm just curious if they use the same "cans", or if they're different. I'm pretty sure the LD-3's are universal, but what about all of the others?
Thanks, Mikeclod.

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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 9881 times:

I bet UPS doesn't use LD3s and FedEx does.

LD3s are not the most efficient use of the 757Fs and 767Fs. There's some container (I asked about this in tech-ops) that fits perfectly single file in the 727F and 757F and then side by side in the 767F.

Since FedEx uses the wider A310F instead of the 757F and the A300F instead of the 767F, I bet they DO use LD3s.

I'm sure UPS pilot can correct me on all this.

N


User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1869 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 9853 times:

Today, UPS operates Airbus and MD11 too.
That's why they probably use LD3s now.
About the main deck, I visited the UPS Airbus during the last Paris air show at Le Bourget.
Ups uses different containers, but I do not remeber the name. They are not as high as the fedex AMJs, but they have a top that is cut on 3 sides, and are lower, to allow easy transfer to 757 and 767.
The position of the locks on the maindeck of the Airbus is completely different.
In fact, on the A300, Ups loads 1 extra can on the main deck, but their cans are smaller. In term of use of the volume of the plane, I think it is equivalent.
teva



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User currently offlineUPS Pilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9770 times:

Gigneil is right,

UPS uses:

L-11, M1-n (modified M-1), L-9n (modified L-9), A-2n (modified A-2) and of course the corresponding pallets.

The L-9n's are in the A300 belly a and b positions. The A300 main deck has the A2n.

The MD-11 also has the L-9n in the belly a position. Belly b holds the L-11. The main deck can accomodate the A-2n and the M-1N.

The 72 and 75 use the A2-n


User currently offlineFxra From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9747 times:

FedEx uses:

SAA/SAX: 88x125 in base with a contour (full width of B727 fuselage and countoured to match)
AYY/AYX: 88x62.5 in base, essentially half a SAA container
AMJ: 96x125 in base, 96" tall (i think, been a while) with one top corner contoured
AKE/AVE: stadard LD-3 belley containers
AWX: specialty haz at container to fit in the first position of B727, roughly half the footprint of a SAA

Along with standard "cookie sheet" pallets at 96x125" and 88x125" bases and the occasional 20-foot pallet.

As far which aircraft uses what, B727 uses only SAA/AYY containers (the last letter X symbolizes a specialty hazmat container)

A300/A310 can use all cans (except AWX), and numbers vary by load configuration. DC-10/MD-11 is the same.

later



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User currently offlineMikeclod From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9697 times:

Thanks all, but does anyone have any pics of UPS's cans? Are they the same as FEDEX's AYY, SAA, AMJ, but just different designations? BTW Gigneil LD-3's are belly cans. I can't imagine anyone putting them on the topside of any jet. FXRA What's your SQI? LOL
Mikeclod


User currently offlineFxra From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 6 days ago) and read 9670 times:

MIkeclod, for some reason I feel i should know what an SQI is, i don't. Then again, I'm no longer a FDX employee (ahhh greener pastuers).

NO, UPS uses different cans, having seen them sitting next door. Not just different names. SOme are not extremely different, but you can tell.

ANd I'm not gonna tell you how, but I've put LD-3's topside. I also probably did a few lets say non standard ULD loads.

l8r



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User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3380 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9652 times:

its been awhile, buti used to load UPS planes. Is the LD-3 the short A2? if so that is the last position on a dc-8, rotated 90 degrees, so that it fits into the tail section topside. At out station we used A2s, M1s, pallets, and the short containers (LD-3s?) to load everything (we had 727-100, dc-8, 767, 757, 747, A300, MD-11). thats all of them, right?


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User currently offlineJjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9619 times:

SQI=Service Quality Index

FedEx Express' internal operating performance metric.

joe


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