Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 87
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9721 times:
I bet UPS doesn't use LD3s and FedEx does.
LD3s are not the most efficient use of the 757Fs and 767Fs. There's some container (I asked about this in tech-ops) that fits perfectly single file in the 727F and 757F and then side by side in the 767F.
Since FedEx uses the wider A310F instead of the 757F and the A300F instead of the 767F, I bet they DO use LD3s.
Teva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1869 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9693 times:
Today, UPS operates Airbus and MD11 too.
That's why they probably use LD3s now.
About the main deck, I visited the UPS Airbus during the last Paris air show at Le Bourget.
Ups uses different containers, but I do not remeber the name. They are not as high as the fedex AMJs, but they have a top that is cut on 3 sides, and are lower, to allow easy transfer to 757 and 767.
The position of the locks on the maindeck of the Airbus is completely different.
In fact, on the A300, Ups loads 1 extra can on the main deck, but their cans are smaller. In term of use of the volume of the plane, I think it is equivalent.
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Fxra From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 698 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9587 times:
SAA/SAX: 88x125 in base with a contour (full width of B727 fuselage and countoured to match)
AYY/AYX: 88x62.5 in base, essentially half a SAA container
AMJ: 96x125 in base, 96" tall (i think, been a while) with one top corner contoured
AKE/AVE: stadard LD-3 belley containers
AWX: specialty haz at container to fit in the first position of B727, roughly half the footprint of a SAA
Along with standard "cookie sheet" pallets at 96x125" and 88x125" bases and the occasional 20-foot pallet.
As far which aircraft uses what, B727 uses only SAA/AYY containers (the last letter X symbolizes a specialty hazmat container)
A300/A310 can use all cans (except AWX), and numbers vary by load configuration. DC-10/MD-11 is the same.
Mikeclod From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9537 times:
Thanks all, but does anyone have any pics of UPS's cans? Are they the same as FEDEX's AYY, SAA, AMJ, but just different designations? BTW Gigneil LD-3's are belly cans. I can't imagine anyone putting them on the topside of any jet. FXRA What's your SQI? LOL
Doug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3350 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 9492 times:
its been awhile, buti used to load UPS planes. Is the LD-3 the short A2? if so that is the last position on a dc-8, rotated 90 degrees, so that it fits into the tail section topside. At out station we used A2s, M1s, pallets, and the short containers (LD-3s?) to load everything (we had 727-100, dc-8, 767, 757, 747, A300, MD-11). thats all of them, right?