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5 Ways To Fix The Airlines  
User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3911 posts, RR: 32
Posted (12 years 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

Interesting article from Fortune Magazine.

AIRLINES: Straighten up and fly right
The U.S. airline industry is broke.
Here are five ways to fix it.


I think every point made in this article is a valid one.


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User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3911 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3271 times:

OK, seems, like the software has changed yet again so let me try one more time to see if I can make the link clickable.

If that doesn't work, you'll just have to copy the URL in the post above.


User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3253 times:

"Escaping a death spiral isn't about genius or improvisation or luck. It's about knowing what to do and doing it. The five-step protocol that pilots learn begins with "chopping the power" and ends with pushing the throttle to provide a surge that levels the plane."

How I laughed  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud

Didn't read the rest of the article as I couldn't possibly take it seriously after that comment.

I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineAdministrator From Sweden, joined May 1999, 3251 posts.
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3290 times:



/ Johan

Working on the site from morning 'till night that's livin' alright (1997-2007)
User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6669 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3127 times:

Don't insurance companies have to guarantee that they have the means to cope with any payout, or have some sort of minimum cash reserves? This makes the industry reliable and the regulation ensures that companies who do not have the ability aren't out there to dissappoint. How about having a similar scheme for the airlines?

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

I agree whole-heartedly with all except #5.

While I really dont have a problem with opening the USA/Euro domestic skies to foreign carriers.... I do find it rather astonishing that these guys truly believe that foreign airlines will come into this market with their thrills 'n frills... and expect those things to continue for them there, at a profit. Not gonna happen folks; WN, B6, FL, and all their ilk would have a field day ripping those foreign carriers to shreds. End of story!

User currently offlineAIR757200 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

Taxes are an issue! Of course, with all that revenue coming into the federal government, they are not likely to give it up. Taxation without representation.

User currently offlineJ32driver From United States of America, joined May 2000, 399 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

Not a bad article. I do take issue with the foreign carrier option though. How many of the foreign carriers get some form of government subsidy? My concern is that the nonsubsidized US carriers would have to compete with a subsidized foreign carrier.

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 45
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3014 times:

Another article written by some "think tank" (in other words, someone who talks a lot, but seldom ever actually does anything. You know that whole "book smart" versus "street smart" issue?

I mean if these people are so smart, why are they writing about airlines as opposed to running them?

I guess they can offer some suggestions. But its nothing to be taken as gospel.

And I'll be the first to admit that I don't know shit about shit vís-a-vís running an airline, which is why I never comment on such matters.

User currently offlineToner From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3001 times:

The way to fix the airlines is to go back to the reason they are in this fix, I.E., DeReg. This was Kennedy's idea. He has never had a sound one.

Go back to regulating the remaining few airlines while we still have some. Use the same guidelines that were in place before DeReg.

Next, we have to make the terminals more accesable. Do away with security. Go back to PAX parking their cars, and walking up to the counter of the airline of their choice.

Do this by assuming a neutral stance in foreign policy in the Mid East, instead of this ridiculous one-sided support of bloody Israel.


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5310 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

Is that the first time in a long time our Administrator makes an aviation related post?  Big grin

How to fix the airlines? Well here in Europe, I trust that if other carriers followed Aer Lingus' strategy they might have some chance.


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offline737doctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 38
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2977 times:

Reregulation is not the answer; industry regulation does not benefit the consumer. Survival of the fittest, I say.

As for the article, the first three points are good. The fourth one is dubious at best; if that's such a great idea, why is Southwest not on board with baseball-style arbitration? The last suggestion makes little sense to me...

Patrick Bateman is my hero.
User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6206 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2928 times:

Wouldn't it be great to allow foreign carriers into the U.S.? First of all, it would increase competition over here. Secondly, U.S. arlines could enter foreign markets. In the end, this would probably be a good thing for U.S. carriers.

Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2813 times:

Just read the article myself. Regarding foreign carriers, why not? Who cares if the US airlines rip them to shreds ? (and that's not necessarily a given...there may be some surprises or lessons to be learned).

Of course, foreign carriers would theoretically have to play on a level playing field - they would be subject to the exact same regs as any other US carrier - that would include the subsidisation argument (i.e. there wouldn't be any...)

US carriers would be given the same opportunities in Europe - reciprocating the favour.

The only thing stopping such a move is fear of massive job fallouts from failures, consolidation and job shedding.

Isn't it already working with other industries i.e. don't BAA (British Airports Authority) own/run some airports ? I've even seen WHSmith's newsagents when passing through ORD - don't tell me they're not British!  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

......(I meant to say don't BAA already have a hand in running some US airports)

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