GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12952 posts, RR: 79 Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3054 times:
We got a phone call from our JFK counterparts yesterday evening, warning that JFK was going to be very snowed under today, the BA001 was cancelled, currently that is turning in JFK to do the BA002, so that's cancelled too by default.
AirFranceJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 476 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2903 times:
Cant really comment about the BA cancellation but I can tell you why the AF Concorde was cancelled ------ especially since I was the the one that did it.
We were advised yesterday that the only runway in use would be 4L and 4R for takeoffs, and we all know the SSC can only use 31L so Paris was advised and the Concorde was subsequently cancelled, I'm sure this is the same for BA since they use 31L as well.
FutureFO From St. Vincent and the Grenadines, joined Oct 2001, 3120 posts, RR: 22 Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2871 times:
Also the airports in PHL, DCA, and BWI are all either closed or on severe arrival and departure delays. IAD had 1 runway open earlier but have not heard if there are plans to close for some more snow removal.
AirFranceJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 476 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2623 times:
Yeh the weather was a big deal but JFK its still open so get your facts straight. The Concorde can't take off from 4L and 4R due to payload restrictions and the fact that it goes right over the South Jamaica neighborhoods.
Scottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6441 posts, RR: 33 Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2574 times:
Well, considering that the storm pelting New York and New England is a good old Nor'easter, with the attendant howling northeast winds (20 MPH from the NNE, right now), a downwind take-off from runway 22R isn't exactly a great idea...
Fsuwxman From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 439 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2536 times:
There are a few more than three, but still quite different than the norm.
Source: www.flytecomm.com, JFK for arriving airport. (5:30pm)
London, England Air India 111 07:59 PM In Flight
Tokyo American 168 07:07 AM In Flight
Seoul Asiana 222 08:34 PM In Flight
Anchorage, AK Asiana 587 10:59 PM In Flight
Gander, NF Evergreen International Airlines 6535 06:07 PM In Flight
Madrid, Spain Iberia Airlines - Spain 6251 06:16 PM In Flight
Anchorage, AK Korean Air 257 10:34 PM In Flight
Warsaw Lot - Polish Airlines 26 07:53 PM In Flight
Istanbul Turkish Airlines 1 06:58 PM In Flight
Gordonroxburgh From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 550 posts, RR: 21 Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2411 times:
If JFK was open to arrivals on a runway Concorde could use, I would think the weather at the alternate airports would put a stop to any chance of flying the service. Even if you did fill the aircraft right up, it would simply not be worth taking any risk what so ever setting out to an unknown situation, hence why the subsonics got cancelled too.
With so little aircraft in the fleet, maybe 3 or 4 at each airline flying (with the others in schedule checks) the last thing they would want to do is have aircraft positioned in the wrong places, causing further cancellations and customer inconvenience.
If AF had flow out today they would have had 2 a/c at JFK and maybe only 1 serviceable in Paris.
I'm sure the engineering staff will be rubbing their hand with the cancellations, time to catch up on the more mundane tasks with out an a/c to prepare/depart.
Bellerophon From United Kingdom, joined May 2002, 581 posts, RR: 59 Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2379 times:
The reason that BA cancelled the BA2 is exactly as GBD posted, and has nothing to do with the runway in use at JFK.
When you said ...and we all know the SSC can only use 31L... you were wrong, and when you now say ...The Concorde can't take off from 4L and 4R... you are still wrong.
The fact that 04L is an extremely noise sensitive runway that is very rarely used does not mean that it cannot be used by Concorde, when no other suitable runway is available. It can be, and it has been.
My facts are straight, perhaps you should check yours?