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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

Does an airline choose whether or not to "light-up" the tails on their airliners? I have noticed sometimes you see the tails lit up:

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and sometimes the tails are not lit up:

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Anybody have an answer?


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

These are called "logo lights" and they are an equipment "option", so some airlines have them, some don't.

User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

On the DC9/MD80/MD90/717, The Logo light is at the end of the wing. It is a little Black Circle in the Daytime, and at night, shines very brightly towards the tail.

User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

Thanks for the quick answers.

You say some airlines have them, but some don't. Lufthansa usually has them according to other A.net pics, why doesn't the Airbus pic above have them? Are they just turned off? Is there a seperate "logo light" switch.

Thanks ahead of time, DIA



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User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2233 times:

I think they are standard on all aircraft, its up to the airline if they want to turn them on or not...you can imagine with a fleet of 500+ airplanes some airlines chose not to use the Logo light and save a lot of money on new bulbs each year....


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User currently offlineAlexchao From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 688 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

Oh~ That's interesting. I always thought that some aircraft weren't equipped with logo lights.

I enjoy seeing the logo lights lit up on airliners, especially large aircraft.

-alexchao


User currently offlineAS_GSC From United States of America, joined Sep 2002, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2203 times:


Not all aircraft have logo lights.

When working on the ramp in SEA at night for AS, if I was waiting for a 737-700/900, I would look for the logo light as they landed. The other aircraft in the fleet were not equipped with them.

Cheers!
AS_GSC


User currently offlineJetskipper From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

I fly for a regional carrier in the US. We fly the EMB-145 throughout the US, Canada, Mexico, and starting soon the Bahamas. All of our 145's have logo light the switch is located on the overhead panel near the nav lights, and is purely captains choice whether we do or do not use them.

User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

that also depends on if an airline takes over another airline such as AA with TWA, TWA perhaps could have had lights on their MD-80s but not AA. Now AA could be flying some MD-80s with lights and some not.

User currently offlineJetdoctor From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

As mentioned above, logo lights are optional, and not all airlines/aircraft have them. When they are installed there is a separate switch for the logo lights (location varies on aircraft, but usually on the overhead panel).

Most people think of logo lights as a way to advertise, but another reason not mentioned is visibility. Even when you have anti collision lights, nav lights and strobe lights on, you will be suprised how much differance a logo light on the tail can help you be seen in the air, and on the ground.

RT



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User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

They are also used to help other pilots/ATC identify the aircraft easier whilst taxiing on the ground at night and in bad weather. When they are told to give way to the VS744, they can look at the tail and easily see that it is a VS744. (that was also one reason why BA dropped the World Tails - as other pilots were getting confused).

There is a seperate switch on the overhead panel to turn the lights on and off.

As far as I'm aware, in the past they were an option that allot of airlines used to pass on, but I think most airlines are adopting them as standard now or are even fitted as standard on some aircraft.

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User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

an option on the airline's part. that is why to anybody watching a SW 737 landing, the only planes that were ordered with the logo lights were the new -700's. reason behind this, when southwest ordered the -700, they originally did not realize with the much larger wing, that at many of their airports, their gates were so tight, that the SW gates could not handle the -700. when a -700 would arrive, it would help ground crew earlier on to see that maybe there was an equipment change and the now-700 instead of maybe the scheduled-300 would require a different gate, thus not allowing them to park where originally planned. first time this happened was when a new -700 arrived into PHX on an aircraft swap, was pulling in, and took out two baggage carts. the carts were parked outside of the painted linesa and legal, but the much larger -700's wing compared to the schedule -300's wing hit the cart. many of the gates in PHX now have red/white signs that say "NO 700" for that reason.

User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Thanks for all the input and answers.

Flyboy7974: Very interesting SW story. Welcome to A.net.

Cheers
DIA



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