N79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3020 times:
I have read this is something that Boeing would consider. Boeing has enjoyed close to monopoly pricing on the 747 during its existence. Lowering the price of the 747 would undermine the economics of the A380 to some extent. I think Boeing is waiting for the A380 to enter service and will make improvements to the 747 based on the 380s shortcoming. They may also reduce the price simultaneously.
Hkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1327 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3012 times:
The entry of the A380 into the market will lower the value of the 747, and Boeing will have to lower the price of the aircraft. I think this is a very likely scenario. This will make it cheaper for airlines (particularly small-scale freight companies & charter airlines) to buy the aircraft for routes that don’t require such a large capacity that the A380 provides.
AvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2478 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2903 times:
I read that Boeing was going to implement a moving production line and other lean manufacturing techniques in 747 assembly to cut down time and lower costs. The price MUST come down if the AC is to remain viable. Once A380 prices stabilize at close to catalog, Boeing has an opportunity to undermine A380 sales by selling an about 80% capacity (of the A380) aircraft at less than 80% of the price. However, to remain truly saleable, the 747 must also cost little, if any more, than the A340-600. The dilemna for Boeing is that this could also undermine sales of the the 777-300ER, already their highest priced airplane.
Cloudy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2762 times:
My guess is that the 777-300ER and/or even larger future versions of the 777 are going to be Boeings largest truly competitive passenger entry for a while. Passenger 747s will be built at a very slow rate and mainly for airlines that already have them. 747's will be mainly sold as cargo planes. For the most part, this is already happening. For this reason, I believe major new passenger versions of the 747 to be unlikely. Something like the XQLR may be built, primarily because it enhances the airframe's value as a cargo hauler as well. But there won't be any stretches.
When Boeing builds a cargo version of the 777, it will be a sign that the 747's days are numbered. But that may not be for a long time yet. The 747 has many advantages over the A380 as a cargo plane (as does the A380 over the 747). Since each is suited for different kinds of cargo operations and freight types, I would not be surprised to see them operated side by side.
Andreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2718 times:
Why would LH want a 777 freighter? It seems to be about the same size as the MD 11F, and LH did get a few very good deals on those (60 or 70% of LH cargo fleet is now MD 11F) and if they need more, there are certainly quite a few MD 11 around that their current owners would just love to sell to LH, who is perfectly able to convert these into freighters.
ConcordeBOy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 2551 times:
Why would LH want a 777 freighter?
Gigniel is right. Both EK and LH Cargo have been in talks with Boeing about a 772LRF.... if you want "verification", see Aero International, February 2003; which quotes them as saying they'd be "particularly interested" in such an aircraft.
Kinda shocking to me really; considering that LH, like CX and AA, is something of a willing slave to RR engines.