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SAS - The Only Company Interested In Lithuanian AL  
User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

As Lithuanian Airlines privatisation becomes more and more real (currently 100% LAL shares are owned by state), only SAS is interested in privatsation. LAL is currently working profitably thus I see no reason for it to be privatised. BTW, SAS itself is owned by governments so why should we sell our airline from one government to governments of other states? They, BTW, even can remove name LAL from airlines and just integrate it in SAS fleet, which would be very bad since we'd loose our only flag carrier and non-charter airline.

LAL currently has these planes: 2x 733 (leased), 3x SAAB-2000 (leased), 2x 732 (owned) plants to change 733s to 735s. It flies from Vilnius to Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Berlin, Stockholm, Kiev, Helsinki, Tallin, Paris, London (Gatwick), Kiev, Moscow, Frankfurt. It's subsidary Air Lithuania flies from Kaunas and Palanga to Oslo, Kristianstad, Hamburg, Billud, in summer also to Moscow and Berlin, plans to add Malmo.

What do you think about this "privatisation" (actually trans-government deal)?

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User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1924 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

Hi Sonic,
A few years ago, Lithuanian AL used to operate to Beirut too. Were these charter or scheduled flights?

Thanks.


User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

To Beirut - probably charter flights, although I don't know since LAL actually had many "experimental" routes, which operated for like few months and were dropped after that as unprofitable (routes to Milan and Madrid could be good examples). These routes aren't even mentioned in LAL's website's section "history", where all current and former routes are written, thus it is hard to tell. LAL once had middle east in their interest (flew (non "experimental" routes) to Dubai, Istanbul and Larnaca), but now completely dropped all destinations and restricted it's services to Europe. Although there are many Lithuanians going to Tel Aviv and Dubai, thus probably dropping of these routes was more a strategic step regarding privatisation - probably SAS or any other company who would buy LAL would want to route passengers to outer destinations through it's hubs. For the same case plan to get 762 and fly to Chicago was also dropped. Now we have to fly to mid east through Amsterdam or Frankfurt and that is bad, because it is a much longer distance.

User currently offlineSobelair From Croatia, joined Sep 2000, 353 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

LAL will introduce three times weekly (Tue,Thu,Sun) a new service from Vilnius to Brussles, with their Saab 2000s
 Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

Sobelair, where did you got this info from? I didn't heard anything about that here and on LAL's site this also isn't noted...

User currently offlineSk945 From Sweden, joined May 2002, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

Sonic,
SAS havent changed name on any company they have bought (Braathens, Widero, Spanair, Air Botnia). So I guess it whant happend on LAL either. The baltic region are important for SAS as they have to compete with Finnair. Also, they would like pax to there hubs. Also, I heard the rumor that SAS would like to sell or lease some B736 to LAL. Much easier if you own the company...



User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2171 times:

Sk945, could it be so that aftre privatisation SAS will want to re-route people through it's hubs only and thus drop flights from Vilnius to other hubs, like London, Paris, Amsterdam or Frankfurt? Routes to farer places, like Dubai, Istanbul or Rome are already dropped, plans to fly to Chicago also are, athough for example Dubai destination was and would be popular. My concern with privatisation is that LAL will become very regional airline, designed just to fly Lithuanian people to Stockholm, Copenhagen or Oslo, from where they would continue. This is very annoying, since many destinations are much farther through these cities than directly from Vilnius (middle and far east would be good examples). Look to Air Baltic now, it was the first Baltic airline to be privatised. It has no routes farther than Copenhagen (no Amsterdam, Paris or London)...

User currently offlineVadheim From Norway, joined Jul 2000, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

I do'nt think you should worry too much...

That SAS want to buy the company can also be an opportunity for LAL. One example is Braathens here in Norway, the airline is doing very well today both economically (strange in theese days....) and expanding with new routes as well from Oslo (Dublin, Rome, Palma, Las Palmas for instance). The good thing is that they can co-ordinate their timetables in a way that gives the customer a good choice of flights from smaller countries.

I think LAL will have the opportunity to fly direct from Vilnius to most larger European cities, the Lithuanian market will decide this!


User currently offlineFBU 4EVER! From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 998 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

Within a few weeks,SAS will reveal their long-term plans for the airline part of the SAS Group.This will most likely be a down-sizing,or complete elimination,of the SAS airline as we know it today.SAS will be transformed into a holding company only,and use the various smaller airlines now owned or to be acquired to fly SAS routes on a competitive basis.
What the politicians and media in Scandinavia will say to such plans will be interesting,to say the least!



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