UA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2442 times:
Mesa will now be operating as UAX out of DEN with 10 Bombardier Q200s... these will replace the AirWis DoDo birds that are being retired (AirWis will be 100% CRJ).
The strange things is, Mesa is currently operating as Frontier JetExpress out of DEN. Is this the first case of one regional airline serving two competing hub carriers?
DIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 30 Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2433 times:
I may be wrong, but doesn't ASA serve Delta and Airtran out of ATL. If not, who is serving Airtran with those CRJs?
Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
UA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2427 times:
I may be wrong, but doesn't ASA serve Delta and Airtran out of ATL. If not, who is serving Airtran with those CRJs?
Coincidentally enough, Air Wisconsin... the same airline whose retirement of props are necessitating the contract with Mesa to "continue to serve mountain communities".
DIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 30 Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2422 times:
That is wierd to say the least.
Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
SegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2388 times:
this isn't a conflict of interest at all. JetExpress was moved to a complete control by frontier and not Mesa, so Mesa really doesn't have much of a say in where their planes go, just as long as they get paid.
Mesa is also adding 6 CRJs to the JetExpress fleet..... expect more Frontier cities soon!
Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3097 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2386 times:
1.)Chautauqua Airlines at STL, operates a hub for American Connection and operates US Airways Express to Philly.
2.)ACA operates FRJ's from BOS-PHL for Delta Connection as well as J41's from IAD-PHL for United Express.
Searpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4343 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2384 times:
American Eagle serves AA and AS out of LAX. QX serves AS and NW out of SEA, all on the same flights. While its not overly common, its not unheard of. In the Mesa case, they will dedicated ops for each carrier. Basically Mesa is just a subcontractor, working for whomever hires 'em.
Duane
"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
J32driver From United States of America, joined May 2000, 399 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2382 times:
It was my understanding that UAL wanted Air Wisconsin to get rid of the props in favor of an all jet fleet. We wondered who was going to serve the markets you can't get an RJ into.
As far as Frontier Vs. United Service. There will probably be a no compete clause in the contract. If Frontier already serves a destination, then Mesa can't serve it flying in United colors, only frontier colors.
So UAL hired the company that it fired twice and sued once? Yep... that makes alot of sense. Morons.
Jmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3159 posts, RR: 17 Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2378 times:
Are they just going to pull these Dash8s out of thin air to operate these flights? Or are they going to rob them from the America West Express operation in Phoenix?
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2371 times:
Mesa for a time were doing flights for USAX and AWAX out of Atlanta. Air Wisconsin doe UAX and AirTran JetConnect flights out of ATL as well.
Ba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8259 posts, RR: 56 Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2352 times:
Dont Skywest fly Brazilias and CRJ's for UA and DL in and around CA?
When I when spotting to LAX in jan,numerous CRJ's and BRZ's were flying in UA's c/s.
Tu154m From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 667 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2298 times:
1)Air Wisc-UA and AirTran in ATL
2)AA Eage-AA and DL in LAX
3)SkyWest-DL and UA in LAX
I'm sure there are more examples!
S
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3994 posts, RR: 23 Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2270 times:
How about...Chautauqua:
Colubmus - HP Express, Delta Connection & US Airways Express.
Louisville - American Connection, Delta Connction & US Airways Express.
Any opinion/comment posted is that of my own and not that of Southwest Airlines Co.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2214 times:
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 17 Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2186 times:
The original JetExpress agreement as filed with the SEC forbid Mesa operating for UA in Frontier's markets. Did Frontier change their mind and give away something by agreeing to allow Mesa to operate for another airline out of DEN? Or is this still in effect? We'll have to see what routes they end up with.
The old Agreement's relevant paragraph: 25.5 Except for codeshare agreements with America West Airlines, Inc., USAirways, Inc. and Midwest Express Airlines, Inc., Mesa agrees not to enter into another codeshare agreement with a carrier hubbed in Denver for markets served by Frontier that originate or end in Denver, Colorado.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 17 Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2174 times:
Skywest used to operate both DLConnection and UAX at LAX. Once DL pulled back in LA Skywest dropped all the DL flights.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
AerMickey From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 85 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2145 times:
It will be a long time before Air Wisconsin will ever get rid of the BAE-146. They just added SFO-ASE this year due to the service that they can gain from the 146. It is a great airplane to use in a mountain region. As well, AWAC worked out an excellent deal with the company of whom they lease these planes from.
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2571 posts, RR: 59 Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2131 times:
Twa902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3048 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2112 times:
The funny one:
St. George, Utah: served by two airlines
SGU is also the company headquarters for Skywest.
Skywest and Skywest
dba United Express to LAX
dba Delta Connection to SLC, CDC
TWA902
life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
Ti717 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 227 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1939 times:
Mesa has flown for UAL in the past out of Denver and ended service in the late 90's over what was called contract problems. I think this is a good Plus for UAL they needed to get the regional house in order and catch up with DAL and CO.
TI 717
Fly Texas International
Sir, don't you think we should turn on the runway lights?" "No, that's just what there expecting us to do!"
SegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1912 times:
Plus the 146 airframe is the only commuter jet that can fly into ASE...
25 Azjubilee: Mesa is unhappy with the agreement with Frontier in DEN Look for that service to end soon... the FAA inspector for Big Sky - now a Mesaba HOldings com
26 PSU.DTW.SCE: Long time, no see AZJ... If BigSky was to take over the F9 contract, wouldn't they have to get something other than the Metro's, likely need some RJ's
27 Ual777contrail: Thanks crosswind, I was totally thinking of the CRJ'S(50 seaters) my fault. ual 777 contrail
28 Ti717: Yes, MESA does do EAS out of ABQ under the Mesa name. From Mesa web site. "Mesa Airlines operates as an independent division flying the Beechcraft 190
29 JC5280: This is simply a way for UA to renogotiate the contracts with DH, OO, and ZW. The two latter ones are the most expensive and there needs to be leverag
30 Azjubilee: PSU - According to Big Sky's POI - there won't be an RJ on that property for at LEAST 2 years. Snapping up saabs or dashes or even 328 turboprops woul
31 UA744Flagship: JC5280-- The LCC will negate the need for Express on many current markets, which is simply because many Express RJs have been used to replace mainline
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