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Let's Hear It For The Vickers Vanguard!  
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13170 posts, RR: 77
Posted (11 years 5 months ago) and read 3095 times:

MattD's great post on the BAe-146 got me thinking, how about a tribute to an aircraft designed for the same sort of role further back in the past?
Why not the Vickers Vanguard?

This 4-engine turboprop, designed to expand on the great success of the pioneering Viscount, was
alas not a success, the jets for short haul were coming, (the Caravelle was around at the same time), some delays in engine development, a bit like it's US contemporary and counterpart, the Lockheed L-188 Electra.
But the L-188 had a bigger home market, apart from BEA and TCA (now BA and Air Canada respectively), it did not sell.

BEA converted many of their fleet to Merchantman freighters, and they gave good service until 1980.
Many worked on with smaller airlines, until 1996, almost all in the cargo role.

Built like a tank, (typically Vickers!), the Vanguard was a solid and dependable workhorse, Lockheed converted the L-188 to the P3 Orion maritime patrol aircraft, the RAF went for a greatly converted Comet, refitted with R/R Spey engines for this role, calling it the Nimrod, a highly capable aircraft, but maybe a 'UK P3' in the shape of a Vanguard variant, might have been exported as well as being operated by the RAF.
Enough speculation, here is some specs, and pics;

http://britishaircraft.co.uk/aircraftpage.php?ID=26


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User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1964 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3071 times:

Excellent post - I have always liked this little-known aircraft and have often wondered why it wasn't a commercial success. The aircraft almost looks like a cross between a Lockheed L-188 Electra and an Ilyushin Il-18: a rugged yet elegant aircraft.

One Merchantman (or "Guardsvan") has been preserved:
http://www.oldprops.f9.co.uk/Vanguard.htm

Two German sites recognizing this aircraft:
http://www.airlines-airliners.de/airliners/vanguard.htm
http://www.sphynx.de/html/vanguard.html

For those interested in a video:
http://dnausers.d-n-a.net/dnetrAzQ/vang.htm



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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13170 posts, RR: 77
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3038 times:

Thanks fanofjets, great links, anyone on here ever fly on a Vanguard?


User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2074 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3005 times:

I have flown on an Air Canada Vanguard. If I recall correctly 1st class was in the rear. Also that the armrests vibrated so severly it was uncomfortable to rest on!


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User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1585 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

GDB

I couldn't resist it - and dug deeply into the archives, and found two pictures of G-APEH, taken on a cold and wet 21/11/73 at Heathrow!

http://www.britishairways.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/BA

Happy days - look at the hairstyles and clothes of 1973!



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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13170 posts, RR: 77
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2919 times:

Nice pic Carduelis, very evocative of that era.

User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2918 times:

Flew one...Oh so many years ago...think it was either to BRU or PMI...I Would have been little more than a babe in arms!

Remember seeing a BA Merchantman at LHR - that would have been about '77



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User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1670 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2901 times:
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I flew on two with BEA in 1968 from LHR to GLA and back. I really enjoyed my flights on the Vanguard. I remember that it had 6-abreast seating, unusual for a prop plane. I also remember first class being in the back, just like Eastern's Electras.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



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