GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13605 posts, RR: 76 Posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3973 times:
MattD's great post on the BAe-146 got me thinking, how about a tribute to an aircraft designed for the same sort of role further back in the past?
Why not the Vickers Vanguard?
This 4-engine turboprop, designed to expand on the great success of the pioneering Viscount, was
alas not a success, the jets for short haul were coming, (the Caravelle was around at the same time), some delays in engine development, a bit like it's US contemporary and counterpart, the Lockheed L-188 Electra.
But the L-188 had a bigger home market, apart from BEA and TCA (now BA and Air Canada respectively), it did not sell.
BEA converted many of their fleet to Merchantman freighters, and they gave good service until 1980.
Many worked on with smaller airlines, until 1996, almost all in the cargo role.
Built like a tank, (typically Vickers!), the Vanguard was a solid and dependable workhorse, Lockheed converted the L-188 to the P3 Orion maritime patrol aircraft, the RAF went for a greatly converted Comet, refitted with R/R Spey engines for this role, calling it the Nimrod, a highly capable aircraft, but maybe a 'UK P3' in the shape of a Vanguard variant, might have been exported as well as being operated by the RAF.
Enough speculation, here is some specs, and pics;
Fanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2151 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3949 times:
Excellent post - I have always liked this little-known aircraft and have often wondered why it wasn't a commercial success. The aircraft almost looks like a cross between a Lockheed L-188 Electra and an Ilyushin Il-18: a rugged yet elegant aircraft.
L1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1727 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3779 times:
I flew on two with BEA in 1968 from LHR to GLA and back. I really enjoyed my flights on the Vanguard. I remember that it had 6-abreast seating, unusual for a prop plane. I also remember first class being in the back, just like Eastern's Electras.