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Continental To Offer Direct MSY-NRT Service!  
User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3802 times:

As of May, Continental flight 7 will operate New Orleans to Houston to Tokyo. MSY-IAH will be a 757-300, then the classic 777 to Tokyo, I think this is the first ever "direct" MSY-Japan service, and even though a change of plane will be required, it is still pretty nice to see.  Smile And it will be great to welcome the 753 back to the bayou.

Steve in New Orleans

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User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3788 times:
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Interesting scenario. Why a 757 -300 on such a short flight, though? Does MSY-IAH have that kind of a load?

JBLU


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3775 times:

Continental does many of these flights.

They do DEN-LGW "direct" with a change of planes in EWR........

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3766 times:

I don't see why a direct flight like this is even worth mentioning. Its a different flight all together, just carries through the same flight number. Good for booking and all, but otherwise, two totally and essentially unrelated flights.

User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3738 times:



What would happen if the first "leg" of the flight were cancelled or delayed? Is there any difference in an airline's policy for these change-of-equipment flights? Or would it be the same as a flight arriving too late for a connection?


mls515?


User currently offlineFrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

Mls515, there would be no problems. The aircraft are different, which, correct me if I am wrong, but these flights aren't really direct. Direct would involve the same plane with a stop. These flights just carry the same flight number and I would not consider them direct flights.

User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3650 times:

I believe Northwest does something like that too- NRT-LGA with a stop and change of plane at DTW.

User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3631 times:

Bah, if I had a dime for every "direct" international flight scheduled from my home airport...

*grumbles*

While I'm always dissapointed that these change-of-plane direct flights don't really represent a real service enhancement to the cities from where they are scheduled, it is at least a positive development that CO is making it at least slightly easier for passengers to book travel from MSY to travel to Asia.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3615 times:

Sadly, who cares?

I could see if they were using a Triple7 on MSY-IAH-NRT, but methinks that would be overkill in the current environment.

We've had JAL and ANA flights here 1stop via ORD for years... no real biggie. In all scenarios, a change of plane (and sometimes terminal) is involved, but there's interlined baggage and same mileage for all of them. What's the advantage of this?


User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3603 times:

legality speaking, these are not direct flights, but just a sales pitch to most to make it look like the airline offers same plane service on the route. most pax are not even aware that there is a change of planes/gates until the day of travel, and then become agitated to find out that what they were sold as a direct flight, actually is just the same flight number but with the same hassles as a normal connection.

User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3551 times:

Interesting scenario. Why a 757-300 on such a short flight, though?

Yes, the MSY-IAH has very good loads, but fairly low yields, and it is well suited for 753 service.



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User currently offlineJjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3435 times:

These flight are not direct flights; they are change of gauge flts.

joe


User currently offlineHaveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3422 times:

Just about every US Airways transatlantic flight (and many Carribbean flights) continues on / from a domestic non-hub city.

For example
US 2 FLL-PHL-FCO (change of planes in PHL)
US 3 FCO-PHL-FLL (ditto)



User currently offlineONT 737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 590 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

Back when I was with AA at LAX we had flight 88. It was routed LAX-ORD-BRU, however it was only a MD80 to ORD and then switched to a 763 in ORD. There were a lot of passengers that were really scared and upset at the thought of taking the MD80 transatlantic. And then when you tell them there is an equipment swap they get all upset because they thought it was really a "direct" flight. It really seems like a deliberate act to fool the passenger. I can't think of any *operational* benefits to numbering your flights in this manner....


"The world is run by C students"-Harry Truman
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33053 posts, RR: 71
Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3132 times:

The major benefit is ease in ticketing. For example, someone flying between Rio de Janeiro and Tokyo Narita on American Airlines will need to have two stops. They can be booked on three flights GIG-MIA-ORD-NRT, or booked on two GIG-MIA-NRT. Even though MIA-NRT is change of gauge (one flight number) in O'Hare, it just makes it easier to ticket.


a.
User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3122 times:

So I guess American flies from AUS-NRT and DFW-LHR

[Edited 2003-03-07 02:19:22]


Go big or go home
User currently offlineScottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6793 posts, RR: 32
Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

It's not just about ease of ticketing; I believe the "direct" flights will also show up higher in the reservations systems than the flights with explicit connections. That way, CO is more likely to get an MSY-AA), Japan">NRT passenger via IAH than AA might via DFW.

User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5519 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3002 times:

Wow, I read direct service, and I was shocked. It's only a change in a diff. airport. There's tons of these. There's MSP-FRA, and MSP-FCM but they change in DTW.

Continental

THOUGH MSP DOES NEED REAL DIRECT SERVICE TO FRA!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

Who cares!

The 757-300 is used for high density, short and medium haul flying, so it is normal to fly one from MSY to IAH.

CO probably also offers direct ABE-CDG flights!

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

I had noticed that MIA-NRT was no longer showing up as CO 007, and this explains it.

It's actually a disadvantage for elites, because the computer considers it to be one international flight, and therefore you don't get upgraded automatically. Coming back NRT-MIA I even called from Japan to try and get myself listed for the IAH-MIA leg, but it still didn't work and I ended up sitting in coach.

Give me discrete flight numbers any day!  Smile

Steve


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2848 times:

It’s a marketing scam!

Many majors offer CHG – Change of Gauge flights. American 5 is a 767-300 DFW-HNL. At one time that flight number originated from IAH as an MD-80. The Houston-DFW section has not been Flight 5 for some time now. In fact, IAH-DFW is going to Eagle (I don’t know if a mix of mainline/Eagle or all Eagle) .

JR FlyingTexan


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33053 posts, RR: 71
Reply 21, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2757 times:

IAH-DFW is going to Eagle (I don’t know if a mix of mainline/Eagle or all Eagle) .

Mix. I think it is three Eagle and six M80s a day.



a.
User currently offlineDocpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2718 times:

United does a direct LGA-SIN flight with a change of plane in ORD. NW does a direct BOS-SIN flight with a change of plane in Minneapolis.

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