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User currently offlinePecoua From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 299 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2978 times:

Hey all!!!

Does anyone have specific dates as to when QH received and then discarded their DC-10 fleet? I am curious as to when they started that service and when it ended. Also, was it just used on the Europe routes or was the DC-10 ever used on domestic service. Thanks for any help with this.



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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4879 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

March 28, 1900: Air Florida began charter flights to Europe using and ex-Icelandair DC-10-30 (N1035F). Scheduled flights to AMS began in May, BRU in June and SNN in the fall of that year, using 3 additional aircraft leased from Transamerica.
Don't have an exact date on when the 10's were disposed of.



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User currently offlineJmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2941 times:

1900!!! Well that is certainly good going!!!! Hehehe  Big thumbs up Perhaps you mis-typed, was it an eight you were looking for? lol
jmc757  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2924 times:

If memory serves correctly, the DC-10's were in service from 1980 to 1984. Originally, we had N1035F (leased from Icelandic) and then got N101TV through N104TV, leased from Transamerica. In the end, they leased one aircraft from World (N104WA or N105WA, I believe) but I had already been laid-off by that point (second round of management layoffs).

They were used primarily for trans-Atlantic flights however, they did use them occasionally on domestic flights (in fact, the DC-10 that had an uncontained engine failure on take-off from MIA, was scheduled to fly MIA-FLL and then to points beyond domestically. Fortunately, the explosion took place prior to V1 and the take-off was aborted, thankfully. The final report showed that, as a result of the compressor blades damaging the wing, the hydraulic lines had been severed and the slats on that side had already begun to blow-back (ala the AA flight out of ORD in the late 70's).

MxCtrlr  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4879 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2849 times:

1900 indeed! According to my sources, QF acquired a WayBack machine in 1979 and inaugerated MIA-Europe services in 1900. How they did this without any airports is anyone's guess  Big thumbs up

YES, that was supposed to be 1980!



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User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2846 times:

Besides European scheduled service, I know they used the DC-10 from EWR to MIA and JFK to Santo Domingo. They also occasionally flew them from MIA-Kingston and Montego Bay. DC-10's were also used on charters from Tampa to domestic points and European charters. While the DC-10's were used from 1980-1984, I believe any domestic scheduled service was over by the beginning of 1982. Looking at an OAG from July 1982, I see no DC-10 service for Air Florida domestically. By then it was all 737's and 727's with the DC-10's used to Europe only.

User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2773 times:

OzarkD9S,

One small correction, Air Florida's two-letter code was QH, not QF.

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User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2104 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2740 times:

The photo database concurs with the 1980-84 timeframe. The earliest photo in the database is dated Sept. 80, the latest, Feb. 84.

Sept. '80

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Feb. '84

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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2713 times:

MxCtrlr,

That brings back some memories...
http://amelia.db.erau.edu/reports/ntsb/aar/AAR82-03.pdf

Failure was at 90 kias, V1 was 131 kias, Ransom did a great job...

To whomever was asking about QH's DC-10s, N1035F was indeed the first one, and the above NTSB report (involving N101TV) mentions that this aircraft was leased in March of 1981. Since this was the first of three sister ships (N102TV and N103TV), I presume the others came close to this March 1981 date.

Hey MxCtrlr, did you notice that the most recent 737 accident (Air Algerie) was a 737-2T4? This would have been a sister ship to N81AF, N82AF, and N83AF, had it actually been delivered to Air Florida...



User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1943 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2688 times:

I had the good fortune to fly on N1035F in 1983. She was a beautiful plane; Air Florida's service was excellent. N1035F went on to serve with Spantax before being sold to Federal Express, with whom she still flies as Alison.

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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4879 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2665 times:

Boy I'm just FULL of misinformation today...forgive me it's the 7th day and my brain is obviously resting.... Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2664 times:

OPNLguy, yes I did notice the 2T4 designation. Quite a coincidence! I saw on the NTSB report that Ulrich was the captain. For some reason I had always remembered it as Ransom and the Reverend Father Murphy as the front enders? Oh well, shows what memory does for you. Thanks for the NTSB link!

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User currently offlinePecoua From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

Thank you everybody...I appreciate all the info.

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User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1503 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2481 times:


According to Jet Airliner Production List

N1035F Leased Mar 11, 1980 returned Sept 16, 1982
N101TV Leased Mar 15, 1981 returned Oct 5, 1982
N102TV Leased Apr 15, 1981 returned May 25, 1983
N103TV Leased Dec 1, 1981 returned Oct 12, 1982
N109WA Leased Mar 25, 1983 returned July 9, 1984



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