FLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4930 posts, RR: 53 Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1358 times:
Weird things are going on with KLM this summer, in terms of their service to Canada..
This suumer, KLM will make Montreal an MD11 station, with Toronto receiving a mix bag of 74Combi's/743's, and YVR / CYVR), Canada - British Columbia">YVR will remain a B767.
Funny thing is, in May, KLM will downgrade Montreal to a B767, downgrade Toronto to an MD11, and Vancouver to 6 weekly..
This is weird news.... now we all know Load factor's mean nothing, but Montreal/Toronto last summer were neck and neck with KLM's most pax carried by a single flight. Apparently the load factors for each city were about 95%....
Took a look at bookings in may, many of the YYZ / CYYZ), Canada - Ontario">YYZ and YUL / CYUL), Canada - Quebec">YUL flights are now oversold, with June looking 2/3 to full already. Taking up lists of pax and the fares that the paid, there are many full fare pax on KL out of YYZ / CYYZ), Canada - Ontario">YYZ and YUL / CYUL), Canada - Quebec">YUL, surprising actually... many elite's on these flights as well..
Going down from 466 seats to 215 seats is a big step in capacity reduction.. they blame the Middle East... but what is really going on?
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6082 posts, RR: 56 Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1298 times:
Both YYZ and YUL will be first destinations for KLM to recieve the 777 when it starts service for KLM at the end of Oct03. I think that's an indication that KLM considers both YYZ and YUL as important desitnations.
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
AWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1292 times:
KLM triple-7s to YYZ?! Cool!
I see the British Airways 777 flights into and out of YYZ every so often; I see El Al's 777 infrequently (even though it operates often); But, I see the KLM flights quite often, so, I know I'll be seeing that 777 a lot.
Erikr From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 108 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1140 times:
KLM summer reductions may also be partially due to Martinair's annual summer schedule starting up:
3x weekly to Toronto (2 start mid-April, 3rd mid-May through late Oct)
2x weekly to Vancouver (mid May - mid Sept)
2x weekly to Calgary/Edmonton (mid May - mid Sept)
LJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4143 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1026 times:
The shcedule is already made... what about the slot applications?
KLM made the following application for its flight to YUL. Given that this was data as of Feb 28 I reckon they must have changed the schedule at a very short notice (schedule changes are usually incorporated in the application)
The only logical reason for this sudden change is either a lack of booking or they had to retire one B747-300 earlier than anticipated (wouldn't be the first time this happens).
BTW YUL-AMS on KLM on June 2/3 still open for booking!! I already feel sorry for the gate agent at YUL if everybody turns up.
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