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User currently offlineQatarAirways From Qatar, joined Sep 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

A Qatar Airways press release from today mentioned that Qatar Airways' Manchester service which will begin in April 2 has shown high levels of bookings.

The Manchester route will likely get A330-200 service from the begining of 2004. Qatar Airways are also planning flights to Glasgow and other UK points for the future.




Here are some quotes from the CEO:

“Qatar Airways non-stop service to Manchester is about giving people a fast and convenient service into the northern regions of the UK from our hub in Doha,” said Mr Al Baker.

“People can now fly from our hub in Doha to Manchester in seven hours, and be able to enjoy the quality of Qatar Airways’ premium services."

“Since opening our bookings for the non-stop Manchester service, we have already received a high level of demand."

“Qatar Airways wants to give its customers a greater choice of destination as part of its commitment to become a leader in airline standards."

“The high level of demand that we’re seeing for Manchester indicates that we are continuing to meet our customers’ needs and expectations."






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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7448 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2938 times:
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That's good news. Wonder what the impact has been on EK's bookings?

David


User currently offlineQatarAirways From Qatar, joined Sep 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2886 times:

David_itl,

"Wonder what the impact has been on EK's bookings?"

I was hoping you would provide us with this info when you get the figures, I would suspect it would have temporary minimal impact if any at all. The good thing about MAN is that QR have achieved good bookings without the need of heavy discounting and bookings look promising. The real test is when when EK upgrade MAN into twice daily, and how the people will respond to having on one hand more frequencies, more connections, PTV's and established brand to a new comer with none of the above.

BTW can you confirm that QR will use T2?


User currently offlineDesertRat From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2822 times:


More 200 GBP round trip traffic to Pakistan....Hard to make money with that stuff


User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1415 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2815 times:

Have'nt QR's A330s got PTVs?

I would think tah route will be daily in 6 months on the A332.

I am planning to visit my parents in May and hope to route MAN-DOH-DMM-DOH-MAN. The connection time if i were to fly via DXB with EK is 16 hours  Sad QR give me a connecting time of 1 1/2 to 2 hours, ideal!!!  Smile))))

regards

mike


User currently offlineQatarAirways From Qatar, joined Sep 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2767 times:

HUYfan,

Yes the Qatar Airways A330-200s have PTV and because of the seat design they seem to have more legroom than the A300s in Y but the problem is that there aren't enough A330s to upgrade MAN untill 2004.

"I am planning to visit my parents in May and hope to route MAN-DOH-DMM-DOH-MAN"

If you are flying to the Gulf from MAN LH is usually cheaper but if you do fly QR a trip report would be really nice.


DesertRat,

That is why I am surprised, last year the Air Fares were crazy. QR were selling tickets for around £250 to the Gulf and parts of South Asia. The discounting now isn't as bad as last year.


User currently offlineDesertRat From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2746 times:


QR has always looked at Manchester for the VFR traffic to Pakistan. Unless the business model has changed substantially, most of those passengers will be purchasing through discount consolidators. If the discounting has been reduced, I think that will only be temporary....If the UK enters into a war with Iraq, then all bets are off and I would expect the rates for all Gulf-UK markets to fall through the floor


User currently offlineFly707 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2713 times:

Would it be a daily flight or weekly flight ?


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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2704 times:
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I heard MAN-DOH will start as 4-weekly, although it could be different now.



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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7448 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2702 times:
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Fly707, it's 4 weekly non-stop.

QatarAirways, I've not looked at the route breakdown for a while, so this will be one of the things I'll be doing this weekend. Although I must say that it doesn't look that EK are suffering too much....next week will see 777-300s (low density version) operating every day!

Daivd


User currently offlineFly707 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2700 times:

Can the new Airbus 319LR be operated on this route ?
Sure every thing will be delayed till the war on Iraq ends but it's important to plan for future .
Thanks Arsenal@LHR for clarification .



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User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1415 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2670 times:

The last time i flew to Damman, i flew MAN-FRA-DMM-FRA-MAN with LH. Their A342 was a lovely and noticably quiet aircraft to fly in, but they lost my case on the outward leg, so have refused to fly with LH again  Sad

I must also say that i dont think FRA is a patch on Schiphol or Dubai, or even Heathrow!

Regards

Mike



User currently offlineQatarAirways From Qatar, joined Sep 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2641 times:

DesertRat,

The Pakistani VFR market is why they are looking at BHX and GLA as well but with a look at the timing of the flights you will see that they are also looking at other connex markets as well. The LHR and CDG night arrivals arrive late night to connect with QR's late night connection bank which concentrates on South Asia while MAN has been timed to offer optimum connection times to the Gulf and the leisure markets (MLE, CMB, KTM, BKK etc...) The Pakistani VFR market will offer a great base to build up volume from the begining just like EK started with MAN. The aircraft choice (HD A300) gives it away that QR doesn't expect much premium traffic. BTW DesertRat, I believe you were with QR at somepoint, correct?

Fly707,

The A319LR could but it will be used instead to Moscow and Tripoli from July.

HUYFan,

Then give QR a go. DOH airport is small but pleasant and connections are very simple.


User currently offlineDesertRat From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2589 times:


QatarAirways;

I am very well acquainted with both QR and the Gulf airline industry. Despite your claims otherwise, from your level of knowledge of Mr Al Baker's airline, you are obviously either with the airline itself, the Qatari press, or a Qatari government entity. Regarding the MAN service, if you look at the average yields in the markets that you mentioned, only KTM will generate a substantial chance of profitability. The BKK, CMB and MLE flights will generate low yields due to either the high levels of one-stop competition, or the fact that the destination is a leisure market only. The MAN service will need a high load factor to simply break even

It appears that the airline is being grown on the Emirates business model. The reason that I am skeptical of this working is that at least EK has a sizable local market whereas the local Doha market is simply too small to support the expansion. Even with substantial local growth, DOH is light-years away from being able to support this level of expansion. Using EK as a model is risky. Despite published reports of profitability, EK is losing money as an operating airline. The EK group is making a profit, but that is all being driven by Dnata.

Don't misunderstand, I wish QR well, but do question the level of expansion.


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