Triley1057 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 1999, 471 posts, RR: 1 Posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3050 times:
OK, I am probably being paranoid here but I am in the process of shopping for a trip to Europe in July. US Airways is coming up cheapest for my trip LAX-LGW-LAX. I know they are not in the best shape right now and it looks like this war with Iraq is going to happen. I just don't want them to go belly up right before my trip. Other airlines such as Air Canada, Lufthansa are not that much more expensive. United is the second cheapest but I have the same feelings about booking a flight with them. Should I go for US Airways or spend a little more for a different airline? I wouldn't care if it was just a domestic flight but this is to Europe and I absolutely have to be there in July and August. What should I do?
USAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1859 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3020 times:
Yes, I'm more than a little biased, but please do fly US Airways! They need all the passengers we can get right now if they are to make the exit from Chapter 11 on time. They are a great airline and the A330 is a completely awesome aircraft. You will be impressed, I guarantee. Once again, please continue your trip as planned and enjoy it!
Triley1057 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 1999, 471 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3014 times:
It is not that I do not want to fly US Airways, I always have...and I would also love to fly on an A330 because I never have before. I am just a little concerned that they are going to fold right before my trip and like I said before I absolutely have to be in Europe at that time.
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4672 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2825 times:
Obviously you can tell there is no reason to fear flying U. They will be emerging from bankruptcy in 13 days (WOOHOO)...and already have protections in their contracts in case of war (5% labor cost reductions, etc). If you are too worried, pay with a credit card...you will have that added security then should anything unexpected happen.
BeltwayBandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2813 times:
Let me add a more objective analysis. An airline in the bankruptcy process is actually a fairly safe bet for travelers, provided that an ultimate reorganization plan seems likely. If reorganization fails (e.g. the plan is not approved), and the entity goes into liquidation, then you are going to be left with a claim, but low chance of recovery. My sense is that the US Airways reorganization plan is likely to be approved (I believe creditors have already approved), so US Airways soon may be among the most financial sound airlines!
The bigger risk is booking on an airline on the brink of bankruptcy. With a bankruptcy filing, you see an immediate change in schedules, frequent flier credits get slashed, and if you have a booked flight, you may be stuck with a claim, but no flight.
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6282 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2813 times:
I would like to say something strikingly different from those ultra-optimistic opinions listed above (mostly by US employees, who I feel are to biased to give you good advice!)
I think you do have reason to be afraid. "Obvisouly you can tell there is no reason to fear flying U." I disagree- Obviously, there is MORE reason to fear flying U than there is British or Air France or some airline like that, which is in no danger of not existing anytime soon.
Having said that, it looks like they are doing a little better than anyone expected. And, the likelihood of them not beign around in July is low- I think they will last longer than that even if they do eventually fold.
I flew to Rome on one of their A330s, and really did like it. FAR better than my longhaul experience on American (US even had soap and toilet tissue is the lavatories... fancy that!)
So, my advice, in spite of realizing and agreeing with your concern, is to go ahead and fly US. Nice planes, service was fine for coach (check out the lumbar button on your seat!) and in this case, a great price.
But I would suggest, like Outboy, that you pay with a credit card. I booked a trip on Legend with my Amex, and when they went bust, Amex had no trouble with it and did not charge me anything. And, in the event of failure, US will probably book you on another airline. Legend was booking folks on Delta. i would expect US to book them on United or another.
LH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2808 times:
I flew US a few weeks ago. I can say that that cabin crew were very friendly, the planes were full, and reports say that US is set to come out of bankrupcy soon, so I don't think you'd have much to fear from US Airways. At least not before this Summer.
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Spotterboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2799 times:
I also think you should fly US!
I think its a lot better than LH for example, wich does not have PTVs in Economy!
UAL would also be an interesting option, because you'll never know how long they are in the air and I would fly with an airline, wich will not exist a long time in the future... You can fly the other years later too!
USAir330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 850 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2778 times:
I agree with USAirways321, US Airways needs all the passengers they can get right now. And I have flown on the A330 before PHL-SJU. It's was a smooth flight the whole way there and we got to our cruising altitude of 39,000 ft. in 15-30 minutes. Also the legroom is bangin I felt like i was chillin in my living room, especially with the Tv right infront of you .
Clrd2go From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2772 times:
US Airways is our airline of choice. We've flown them several times to
the Caribbean and a few domestic trips and have never been dissatisfied
with the service, on time performance, or the friendliness of the crew.
PatM04 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2718 times:
I hear they are one of the best airlines. I personally have never flown them but have heard nothing but wonderful things. I'm sure that they (like all airlines) could use as many passengers as they can get. Have fun on your trip!!
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4297 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2670 times:
USAirways rules,a nd they are more likely to survive that United. They are very friendly and in the "unlikely event" of them going belly up they will rebook you, go USAirways all the way! I am not biast at all.
-Transaero Boeing 737-200
PS: They need the business, and the A330 kicks butt, their service is great and so is their food. Transcon A319 or 757 both great a/c and they serve meals on the PHL,PIT or CLT-LAX sector.
-Transaero Boeing 737-200
Triley1057 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 1999, 471 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2595 times:
OK, OK, OK...You guys have convinced me. I'll go ahead and book my trip right now. But if something happens and I don't make it to London on the 22nd of July, I am holding you guys personally responsible.
Ryefly From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2567 times:
Now that you have booked your ticket, I will tell you the real truth... just kidding with you. I was in your shoes last week. I am going to a wedding this summer and US Airways was my best choice because of schedule and price. So I bought my ticket with them. Northwest and Delta were my alternatives. I am glad I didn't choose Delta because the next day they switched all their service over to regional jets.
To me US Airways has a good chance to be very strong in the future. I know it seems ironic because if there was any airline that looked toast, it was US Airways days, weeks, months, years ago. I think they cut costs, and shrunk it's fleet down by getting rid of unwanted fleet types just in time. I know in most cases you can't shrink down to profitablity. Although these days everything is different in the industry, and it might have been the thing that saved them from chapter 7. I think if they waited any longer to file chapter 11, they would have been forced to liquidate because of this war. Now that they are so close to emerge from bankruptcy, those that are backing them can see the light at the end of the tunnel. US Airways will treat this war as just another hurdle, but atleast this one all airlines will be dealing with it at the same time. We will just have to see how long the war turns out being. Although if it's long, the government will step in and help before all airlines start liquidating. So I wouldn't worry. Enjoy your flight, I have not flown the A330, but I have also heard great stories about it.