717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 7 Posted (10 years 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1267 times:
Is the planned Syracuse based airline another hoax? They planned operations with 717's from April on and searched for staff...they said to have spent some money in maintenance facilitys at Syracuse....
Does anybody knows more?
717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1129 times:
I sent a e-mail to them today, and I was surprised, 1 hour later I got the answer, that they are still planning to start 717 services soon. They offered that they will send some promotional material to me...So it seems that they are still alive...
M717 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 608 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1067 times:
Their web address is http://www.flynorthern.com. They used to have an "impressive" flash program giving all the details of their proposed operation. Now it's just a one page site with an address and other contact information.
I doubt that any company, including "Northern Airlines" could make any viable attempt at start-up in the current climate. For additional fun, search out info on other proposed "start-ups", such as Legacy Airlines or Crystal Airways. Big ideas. Zero capital.
MidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 16 Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1039 times:
So there is hope that this company may takeoff, wondering, once again, where are they going to get the 717's. The used car lot in the desert is sold out, all 717's coming off of the line are accounted for. The website is a pain-in-the-butt as you have to listen to the presentation.
BeltwayBandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 495 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 970 times:
Maybe they have the inside track on some 717s that are going to be parked?
Seems to me that you could get some dirt cheap equipment out of the desert. The only reasons to buy new are: (i) generous manufacturer incentives, and (ii) the "maintenance holiday" associated with newer aircraft (soon to be the next accounting scandal?).
717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 953 times:
Pembrocke Capital has some 717's which will come out of the factory this year...and I am not sure if they are already placed with an airline, so Northern possibly is taking some on lease from PEMB. Or perhaps Boeing gives them a very good price for new build planes???
M717 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 608 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 931 times:
Northern Airlines isn't getting 717s or any other type of aircraft. They have roughly zero chance of actually flying. Where do you suppose any airline is going to get start-up capital these days? I see the financial world just chompin' at the bit to loan money to this type of operation. These various "start-ups" that I have listed above have all had websites for several years now. All proclaiming to be beginning operations sometime in late ----- (fill in the blanks with the current year). The year goes by, no aircraft, no employees (although Legacy did actually "hire" some crew, then shut the doors), no start-up. New info on the website, though. Starting operations sometime in ---- (fill in the blanks with NEXT year). Why? No money. Nothing has changed.
But, if you guys want to speculate where they will get these non-existent aircraft, go ahead. I guess it makes for some interesting conversation?
Dalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2365 posts, RR: 15 Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 918 times:
The Northern group had nothing to do with Legacy/Oneida. Northern has been in the works for many years and IMO been the most serious start up canidate of the previously mentioned 'airlines'. Do they have a chance of flying, I doubt it at this time.