Dens From Switzerland, joined Sep 2001, 309 posts, RR: 6 Posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1726 times:
I've just read a very interesting comment about the Swiss management:
Switzerland is fantastic. Not only do we have the best chocolate and the best watches of the World, we do now also host the best airline manager. Swiss International Air Lines released today the list of the first batch of six Saab 2000 leaving the fleet at the end of March: HB-IZB / HB-IZC / HB-IZD / HB-IZE / HB-IZF / HB-IZT. With a fleet of almost thirty Saab 2000 the challenge was very hard to reach, but they did it... Out of the six aircraft mentioned above, the first five all have something in common: they all belong to the only nine Saab 2000 that had already been repainted in the new Swiss colors. Who cares ? The taxpayers who gave three billion Swiss Francs to the airline one year ago won't even notice how their money is used. Switzerland, twelve point
Thomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2397 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1697 times:
I think this is just typical.
I just wanted to add two examples, but the guys of DPTS also have it on their website, so I just copied it from there:
"Geneva will be affected in a far lesser extent than Basle or Zurich by the network reduction. Only three destinations (Alicante, Sevilla and Berlin) will be dropped, while frequencies to Basle and Lugano will be reduced and Paris and Rome even increased. In pure Swiss excellent management, the route Geneva-Berlin now declared unprofitable was considered a few weeks ago as doing so well that a third daily rotation was to be added this summer. And while the three axed destinations were served solely by Swiss without any competition out of Geneva, the airline prefers to add frequencies on capitals already served by other airlines, especially Paris where Swiss faces the eleven daily Air France flights and of course the aggressive competition of EasyJet. Time will say how good those choices are..."
Swiss later said to several reporters that the Berlin route was profitable but they wanted to change from Saab 2000 to ERJ-145 and that the aircraft would not be able to fly nonstop from THF to GVA, so they had applied for slots in TXL and didn't get very useful ones and therefore decided to drop the route because they thought they couldn't operate ERJ-145s profitably from/to TXL. I'm not an expert but I really doubt an ERJ-145 can't operate a 1h30min flight out of THF.
Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
Airways From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1618 times:
This DPTS report is a joke, isn't it?
Did you ever consider the financial aspect? We don't know how they have financed the 6 planes. Perhaps they have the highest leasing rates. Or what about maintenance cycles? Perhaps these particular Saabs were due for a heavy maintenance, a cabin upgrade? Or perhaps they were the oldest ones?
What I want to say, there are so many other factors about which we don't know anything. Of course they were in the new colours, but I assume they have been painted during regular maintenance. And there are many other aspects about which we have to care about.
RJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4121 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1578 times:
The ERJ-145 is able to land in THF! I have even seen pictures of that.
Also, Basle-Bilbao-Basle was mentioned to be one of the most profitable routes in the regional sector of Swiss (according to a Swiss spokesman last autumn). However this route will be dropped soon...
I seriously doubt that they will make more money on GVA-CDG.
Dens From Switzerland, joined Sep 2001, 309 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1523 times:
impossible for Swiss to make money on the GVA-CDG route. How can swiss compete with Air France (11 daily flights. Ticket costs CHF 129.-) and Easy Jet(4 daily flight. CHF 60.-.)??? And don't forget that Geneva-Paris by train is just a little more than 3 hours by train!!!!
Swiss should drop this route!
Jumbolino From Germany, joined Mar 2001, 490 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1402 times:
Rey, swiss management doesn't understand something in business and they are not logical thinking
well, see you on saturday (currently try to improve my french, you could give me a lesson for free only to avoid misunderstanding I've currently a french course booked ...)
PS: of course the management changed (a little bit) but many, many people from SR times currently hold the same position then before, so well, they changed the viewable part of the management (from pyramide the first or second row from above ....)