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Air France & Paint ... Is There A Problem?  
User currently offlineMr Spaceman From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 2787 posts, RR: 9
Posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5525 times:

Hi guys.

Is Air France having serious financial problems?

By the looks of this Boeing 737-5, they can't even afford paint!  Wow!

How could they allow this 737 to look so bad? Is it scheduled to be sold in the near future ..... thus they don't care what it looks like?

This photo cracks me up!  Laugh out loud


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Chris  Smile


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User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5496 times:

........either that or they flew so fast the paint came off !

AF are not known to polish their planes frequently.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5493 times:

In April last year I asked myself the same question when I flew on F-GJNX:


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User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2991 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5470 times:

Maybe they're not used to having METAL under the paint  Wink/being sarcastic


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User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5036 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5458 times:

Well they've sure got something going on because they don't clean 'em and the paint comes off. must be another cost-saving tactic......


bruce



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User currently offlineMr Spaceman From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 2787 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5438 times:

Well, F-GJNZ has been losing it's paint for 3 quarters of a year now.

If I was an airline pilot that had to fly this jet, I'd put a bag over my head during my external walk around check, then dive into the cockpit as quick as possible!

How embarassing! I feel sorry for this 737.  Sad


The paint's was already falling off last June!


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User currently offlineEAC_732 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5383 times:

Hello,

Look how appallingly dirty this A340 is:


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EAC_732


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5486 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5379 times:


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Even better!


User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5328 times:

Now now now guys...


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TWFirst wrote: Yet more evidence that France "has no culture"...

I find that comment completely unwarrented, no matter how sarcastic you meant it to be, or even if you did not mean it.

And no, I do not work for the airline  Big grin LOL.



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineMr Spaceman From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 2787 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5297 times:

Hello Flpuck6.

Yes Sir, that A330, A340 and 777 sure are mighty powerful and sexy looking aircraft .....and they're clean.  Big thumbs up However, let me ask you this. Why do they get to have paint on them, but the poor little Baby Boeings are allowed to look like they've been "sand blasted"?

Does Air France not care about their little Thunder Guppies anymore?

Give me a paint brush and I'd have that 737-5 in the first photo I posted looking like new in ONE hour.

What's Air France's excuse???


Chris  Smile



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User currently offlineVaporlock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5281 times:

Maybe "Air France" likes the paint loss because it makes there jets lighter! Therefore, they can save money on fuel!!! LOL

Phyllis  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineBOEING747-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5264 times:

Well I hope their planes fly alright, I am flying them on June 20th from YYZ to CDG for the airshow.  Big grin.

User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5227 times:

I must admit, I have no explanation as to why they allow a plane's paint to desintegrate so much. It looks horrible, I agree, and if I were a passenger, it would diminish my confidence just a little bit (but as an aviation enthusiast and spotter, I know better lol).

Anyone remember 767-300 F-GHGG with all the paint falling off the nose?


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now it looks like this:


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But let's not blow things out of proportion. The aircraft remain in tip-top mechanical shape and an aircraft's paint job has nothing to do with how well it is painted.



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5036 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5195 times:

The French aren't known to bathe often so I guess their planes get the same treatment as a Frenchman, cosmetically.

i know i know....its a stereotype. But really, they DO have the dirtiest planes around!



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User currently offlineSpeedport From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5191 times:

Why don't they paint over sections where the paint has peeled off?

A streak of yellow should do the trick.


User currently offlineQB737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5185 times:

They should go the American Airlines way, that will take care of the paint peeling of the planes and dirt wouldn't show that much.  Yeah sure



Ben


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5163 times:

They should go the American Airlines way, that will take care of the paint peeling of the planes and dirt wouldn't show that much

Yeah, but then ask American how much they spend on cabin temperature regulation and anticorrosives for their aircrafts' skin Big grin


User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5148 times:

Actually wouldn't that be kind of cool? A silver fuselage with the red/blue?

Let's hold it with the stereotypes folks, please.



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineDan2002 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 2055 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5124 times:

Take A close look at this one:




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It even looks like there letting the "ol Speedbirds' get dirty all for the
money!!!

dan2002



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User currently offlineTK From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5107 times:

You haven't seen dirty until you've seen THIS.

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=36031


User currently offlineKevi747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1058 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5074 times:

AF has the most disgusting planes of any airline. The other day I saw an AF Airbus 319 at LHR that was so dirty it looked brown.


"Reality has a well-known liberal bias." --Stephen Colbert
User currently offlineB727-200 From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1051 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5066 times:

Looking at that last photo, maybe they are conducting experiments for the two major manufacturers as to the direction and effects of air flow around the fuselage  Innocent

B727-200.


User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5005 times:

Weird how those two 735s have paint peeling off in the same places. Has to be something wrong withthe paint jobs.
By the way, I've seen some Alitalia planes looking pretty dirty, too. Especially around the APU outlet.

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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4974 times:



WOW. Dont people at AF see. The poor 737 looks like if it has some bad skin rash. Like battle scars of flying with Air France.

Now I feel a bit on the paltry side for being upset that BWIA 340 had paint peel on the tail it has gotten worst than what is in the pic but still AF peel makes it seem so miniscule.


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User currently offline707cmf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4848 times:

I can offer an explaination for the paint pealing on the 737 and 767.
Those aircraft are being removed from service at AF. That's why they don't repaint them.

As for the dirt... I believe it shows more on an Eurowhite fuselage than on a coloured livery...

And as for the French being dirty, I can assure you, to weeks ago I spend more than one hour rubbing and washing the plane I just flew so it would stay shiny ! (and after that I went directly to take a shower)

Antoine


25 Post contains images Sabena 690 : You are all wrong, all those paintings are special liveries /Frederic
26 Post contains links and images QANTAS747-438 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Sam Chui View Large View MediumPhoto © Peter Unmuth - Vienna Aviation Photography
27 Ben88 : These airplanes are utilized so frequently that we don't have time to clean them, and that's a good thing. The 747-400's are all being repainted and r
28 Advancedkid : Word has it that AF has been saving cost at all ends. They have used cheap thin paint on several of their aircraft. Now they have noticed, spray clea
29 Post contains links and images Mr Spaceman : Look at those windows. Unbelievable! This AF A-340 looks like it's so sad that it's eye liner makeup is running from all the tears of shame! I just ha
30 Arsenal@LHR : I flown on AF A320's and 737's, and they looked as if they were involved in a war. Buy not to worry, AF's planes are in a safe as condition possible.
31 Post contains links and images KLAX : Well, I must say this is the cleanest airplane I have ever seen.... View Large View MediumPhoto © Clovis Bouhier -Clovis
32 Varig md-11 : hi yes there is a problem with AF white which isn't white anymore as said before, AF has no time to take a plane out of rotation to clean them, this i
33 Post contains images JAT : Oh man... And I thought JAT was bad... Even their "ghost" 737s aren't this dirty (btw, most of those are gone now, and any left over ones will be soon
34 Post contains images EGFF : Maybe it's just laziness Regards Shaun
35 Post contains links and images Zebfly2 : Varig MD-11- You say that due to flts to Africa and the dust storms encountered, that their a/c pick up a lot of dust. What about other airlines such
36 FutureFO : Well the paint is too expensive for them but even the Soap and water for washing their aircraft. At IAD we used to get the dirtiest AF 343's in their
37 Triley1057 : Well said Ben88. P.S. How is the new baby?
38 Varig md-11 : Zebfly2 LH and SR do fly there but certainly far less intensively than the daily flights to COO/ABJ/BKO/OUA (to mention among the worst dust airports)
39 Post contains links and images JU101 : Certainly last years dirty plane award should go to YU-ANH, JAT Airways Boeing 737-300. View Large View MediumPhoto © Marlo Plate - IBERIAN SPOTT
40 Post contains links and images Boeing4ever : Air France flew that 735 in there as a response to the challenge that LOT Polish Airlines posed with this... View Large View MediumPhoto © Piotr
41 Ben88 : Triley1057, Doing very well thanks...how do you know about that?? hehe Back to the subject, we will be adding two new 747-400 aircraft to our fleet. O
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