GotAirbus From Singapore, joined May 2001, 851 posts, RR: 1 Posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3263 times:
It seems that Continental Express is going for 100 Embraer ERJ 130s and pushing the orders of 100 of the ERJ 135 regional jet. The announcements were made yesterday, raising to 200 the number of jet aircraft the carrier has ordered from the Brazilian manufacturer since 1996.
The new orders comprise of the all-new 20-seat ERJ 130s and 25 of the smaller, 35-seat ERJ 135s, and include a previously undisclosed order for 25 ERJ 145s that was placed in December 1999.
All the aircraft covered in the new order are due to be delivered by 2003, by the second or third quarter of which Continental Express will be operating an all-jet fleet.
The conception of a family of regional jets for Embraer was based around the Brasilia. The first and second design, the EMB-145 and the EMB-130, were both a stretched jet version of the Brasilia, which had two Allison engines fitted under the wings. These wings were not swept back and had winglets. There was room for 20 to 50 passengers. This aircraft would have differed from the Brasilia by 25 per cent. However, wind tunnel tests proved that this design would not have fulfilled the desired performance. This configuration would have ensured a travel speed of only 740km/h at a range of 2,500km (fully loaded). A pre-set cruise speed of over 800km/h and a range of up to 3,000km were planned.
Image linking was not permitted, so I had to place the image somewhere...
Seeing that I support regional jets (and orders), I do believe that this would be a sparkling deal. What do you think?
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Iahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3507 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3189 times:
Odd, I find no announcement of such an order on the CO employee website... That and I would presume the 2003 delivery timeline to be a typo. (Not to mention that CoEx has been all-jet almost a year now). Or perhaps this is a belated April Fool's item......
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2853 times:
You know, I don't think that photoshopped aircraft could fly. Look at how huge those engines are. I'm not even sure it could rest on pavement without falling backwards onto its tail. The center of gravity doesn't even look like it'd be over the wing at all.
Seriously need to move the wing back a few feet, reduce the size of the wing to fuselage fairing, and the engines could be a lot smaller.
Kramri From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2825 times:
News of this purchase setting them up to have an all jet fleet is incorrect. CoEx has had an all jet fleet for quite some time.
Additionally, I don't see how any order for 130s can be filled this year, when the Embraer website shows firm orders that were made well in advance of any CoEx order (which Embraer is not even listing). What is your source for this?
IAHERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 677 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2733 times:
This is complete B.S. There is no such thing as the EMB-130, nor has there been a proposal for such an airplane. This guy is yanking your chain. The EMB-135 wasn't even a success for COEX. It costs almost the same to operate yet holds 13 less pax. Never made much sense for the airline.
ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2692 times:
WoW!! This is very small group of the EMB-121 route from EWR-JFK for the shortest flight, huh? I'm am very interested of the Continental Express aircraft and this is amazing for the more future airplanes. Well, talk ya later!
Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4174 posts, RR: 35
Reply 13, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2666 times:
Even though I have VERY VERY serious doubts about what Got Airbus wrote some details: at one point Embraer did indeed study a jet replacement for the EMB-120, I forgot how it was dubbed. But as far as I know this was dropped as already the ERJ-135 is quite heavy and a tripple-shrink of the ERJ-145 would kill off the benefits of a "family plane"; and it would kill off the already very sluggish sales of the ERJ-135 (last year only one ERJ-135 was sold to an airline customer IIRC).
Coronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1249 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2395 times:
Aah the Future-- an EMB101 with capacity for 2 flight crew, one cabin attendent and one passenger, (me_, charging ''me'' 119.00 to fly from Chicago to New York (well that is what ATA is charging). Eidt the ''130'' down to a single set of porthole windows!!
The Original Coronado: First CV jet flights RG CV 990 July 1965; DL CV 880 July 1965; Spantax CV990 Feb 1973