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Continental Generates Interest In New RJ  
User currently offlineGotAirbus From Singapore, joined May 2001, 851 posts, RR: 1
Posted (11 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

It seems that Continental Express is going for 100 Embraer ERJ 130s and pushing the orders of 100 of the ERJ 135 regional jet. The announcements were made yesterday, raising to 200 the number of jet aircraft the carrier has ordered from the Brazilian manufacturer since 1996.

The new orders comprise of the all-new 20-seat ERJ 130s and 25 of the smaller, 35-seat ERJ 135s, and include a previously undisclosed order for 25 ERJ 145s that was placed in December 1999.

All the aircraft covered in the new order are due to be delivered by 2003, by the second or third quarter of which Continental Express will be operating an all-jet fleet.

The conception of a family of regional jets for Embraer was based around the Brasilia. The first and second design, the EMB-145 and the EMB-130, were both a stretched jet version of the Brasilia, which had two Allison engines fitted under the wings. These wings were not swept back and had winglets. There was room for 20 to 50 passengers. This aircraft would have differed from the Brasilia by 25 per cent. However, wind tunnel tests proved that this design would not have fulfilled the desired performance. This configuration would have ensured a travel speed of only 740km/h at a range of 2,500km (fully loaded). A pre-set cruise speed of over 800km/h and a range of up to 3,000km were planned.


Image linking was not permitted, so I had to place the image somewhere...

Seeing that I support regional jets (and orders), I do believe that this would be a sparkling deal. What do you think?  Smile

(gotAirbus?)


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User currently offlineIahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3389 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3100 times:
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Odd, I find no announcement of such an order on the CO employee website... That and I would presume the 2003 delivery timeline to be a typo. (Not to mention that CoEx has been all-jet almost a year now). Or perhaps this is a belated April Fool's item......


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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 3093 times:

How non economical can a 20 seat RJ get? and when compared to turboprops this is not wise IMHO.

I thought April's fool was 10 days ago, GotAirbus? Is it still on for some reason over at ur place?  Nuts


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3019 times:

Ohhh this is nice for EMB-130 and this is really smaller than of EMB-145 aircraft. I believe think that one will be replace from older aircraft. But, it's is all right for me into the EMB-130.

User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4541 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

Obviously an enhanced picture of a 135/145 chopped down.


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User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3252 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

If I were a pax on one of those, I'd feel like I'm riding the short bus.


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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2764 times:

You know, I don't think that photoshopped aircraft could fly. Look at how huge those engines are. I'm not even sure it could rest on pavement without falling backwards onto its tail. The center of gravity doesn't even look like it'd be over the wing at all.

Seriously need to move the wing back a few feet, reduce the size of the wing to fuselage fairing, and the engines could be a lot smaller.


User currently offlineKramri From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2736 times:

News of this purchase setting them up to have an all jet fleet is incorrect. CoEx has had an all jet fleet for quite some time.

Additionally, I don't see how any order for 130s can be filled this year, when the Embraer website shows firm orders that were made well in advance of any CoEx order (which Embraer is not even listing). What is your source for this?


User currently offlineIAHERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 677 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2644 times:

This is complete B.S. There is no such thing as the EMB-130, nor has there been a proposal for such an airplane. This guy is yanking your chain. The EMB-135 wasn't even a success for COEX. It costs almost the same to operate yet holds 13 less pax. Never made much sense for the airline.

Nice try.

IAHERJ



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User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

I heard the order was for 100 ERJ-121SP's not 130's....  Smile



Michael


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

mikephotos,

How you do that with COEX order with EMB-121? This is really smaller than of EMB-130/135. How much passengers was used inside with EMB-121? Please let me know!! Thanks!!

Regards!

Scott W.


User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2607 times:

10 pax only on the 121's, sole route for the a/c will be EWR-JFK.

Michael  Smile  Smile


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

WoW!! This is very small group of the EMB-121 route from EWR-JFK for the shortest flight, huh? I'm am very interested of the Continental Express aircraft and this is amazing for the more future airplanes. Well, talk ya later!

Regards!

Scott W.


User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4160 posts, RR: 36
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Even though I have VERY VERY serious doubts about what Got Airbus wrote some details: at one point Embraer did indeed study a jet replacement for the EMB-120, I forgot how it was dubbed. But as far as I know this was dropped as already the ERJ-135 is quite heavy and a tripple-shrink of the ERJ-145 would kill off the benefits of a "family plane"; and it would kill off the already very sluggish sales of the ERJ-135 (last year only one ERJ-135 was sold to an airline customer IIRC).

Regards
Flying-Tiger
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User currently offlineStarFlyer From Germany, joined Sep 2002, 987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

Hilarious! hahaha!  Big thumbs up EMB-121! it looks cute, Mikephotos! well done! Smile


Yours truly - StarFlyer
User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2561 times:

Flying-Tiger,

Maybe you're talking about the CBA-123?

hehe. that last one looks like a Xingu on steroids!



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User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2561 times:

I heard the EMB-121SXR was going to have winglets and be used on the CLE-NRT route to be flown by CoEx.

Steve


User currently offlineDan2002 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 2055 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

Ha Ha Sllevin!!  Laugh out loud but your too late they already operate that route with the EMB-145LXR. And im waiting for CLE-DUS but ihat will probally be reduced to a EMB-120XR  Smile


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User currently offlineCoronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1165 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2306 times:
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Aah the Future-- an EMB101 with capacity for 2 flight crew, one cabin attendent and one passenger, (me_, charging ''me'' 119.00 to fly from Chicago to New York (well that is what ATA is charging). Eidt the ''130'' down to a single set of porthole windows!!


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User currently offlineGotAirbus From Singapore, joined May 2001, 851 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2295 times:

Mikephotos picture proves it all! Small, sleek, and economical!

As a fan of regional jets, I must say -- very very impressive!! I can't stop thanking you for that wonderful pic!!

I can't wait to see the jet in an airport nearest me!!

(gotAirbus?)

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