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Does Virgin Have 777s?  
User currently offlineDC10Tony From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2598 times:

This dude in a class said he rode on a Virgin 777, but I said it was either a 747 or an A340, but he INSISTS it was a 777 because of the TVs in the seats. Insane

Anyway, I bet him $5 and told him to bring proof.

So, Virgin doesn't have 777s right? I don't think they do.

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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

Virgins? I don't know what they have but sure wouldn't mind having a look inside?  Big thumbs up

Back to the subj, no Virgin ATLANTIC  Smile-)) has no B777s. they are with the philosophy of "4 engine 4 long haul".  Laugh out loud



User currently offlineTR From UK - England, joined May 2001, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

Virgin don´t have any 777s and has no outstanding orders. They only operate 747-400s, A340-300s and A340-600s

User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

no.

Virgin have TVs in every seat, every class, even in their older planes.


But no 777s

Check out virginatlantic.com, they've got info about their fleet there. Not a single 777, ever...


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

Virgin operates a340-300, a340-600, 747-400 and one leased 747-2000


There is something special about planes....
User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

Virgin has no 777's. They operate A340-300's, A340-600's, 747-400's and one leased 747-200. They used to operate more -200's, one -100 and for a while, had A320 and A321's for flights to Athens.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineYbacpa From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1108 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2422 times:


Virgin has no 777's. They operate A340-300's, A340-600's, 747-400's and one leased 747-200. They used to operate more -200's, one -100 and for a while, had A320 and A321's for flights to Athens.

ContinentalEWR


And, at one point, they did wetlease a 767-300.


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

Your friend probably was riding one of Continental's 777s under codeshare with Virgin Atlantic.




they are with the philosophy of "4 engine 4 long haul"

Unlike an airline such as TG; but very much like most of the crap Branson spews: the 4engines4longhaul nonsense is utter P.R., and nothing more

Virgin once operated the 763ER transatlantically (lease agreement), and they were among the most interested airlines in the twinjet Sonic Cruiser  Insane


User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

Looks like you won an easy 5$ Tony. I wish people took bets with me like that. No 777s for Virgin


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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21520 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

ConcordeBoy: the 4engines4longhaul nonsense is utter P.R., and nothing more

Aside from redundancy issues (and the laws of nature haven´t stopped working, yet) it merely states that Virgin uses quads for long haul routes. It might sound silly - at least until the first time an ETOPS twin has to ditch when its second engine decides to quit as well...


ConcordeBoy: Virgin once operated the 763ER transatlantically (lease agreement), and they were among the most interested airlines in the twinjet Sonic Cruiser

You mean Branson´s famous quote "...I intend to order three"?
No wonder Boeing had to scrap their SC plans if nobody wanted more than Branson.  Insane


User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5093 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

Virgin doesn't own a single 777 nor has any 777 in order.


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User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2273 times:

Looks like you got $5 Tony!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

DC-10


User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2265 times:

I once got in to an argument with a coworker abour a smiliar situation, he claimed on his Singapore Arlines flight from LAX to Singapore and back....he took 5 engined jet!!!!......2 on each side and one on the tail section.......and it had two decks for passengers...(nothing out of the ordinary here) and bunk beds for the passengers in the lower cargo hold.




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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2135 times:

Aside from redundancy issues (and the laws of nature haven´t stopped working, yet) it merely states that Virgin uses quads for long haul routes

You're (not surprisingly) failing to grasp the point of the statement: Branson, during the Farnborough Airshow, attempted to lull his audience into believing that VS would never operate a twinjet on longhaul flights... when in fact VS has, and obviously (made apparent due to its enthusiasm for the proposed S.C.) would do so again.





It might sound silly - at least until the first time an ETOPS twin has to ditch when its second engine decides to quit as well

....or how about when a trijet fries to a crisp 15 minutes away from land due to faulty wiring and inadequate [if any] fire suppression? Quite sad really, and a far cry from 90-207minutes.... dont you think?  Insane

No wonder that the FAA is considering placing ETOPS specifications on all aircraft!




You mean Branson´s famous quote "...I intend to order three"?

Nah, I was thinking more along the lines of his quote "if they can really do what they say they can, we'll be the first to order.... it will totally alter how we view the market!

Interesting to note that this statement was duplicated almost verbatim by Gordon Bethune and Donald Carty as well.... but you heard it forst from Virgin and good ol' DICKIE BRANSON  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11154 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2069 times:

....or how about when a trijet fries to a crisp 15 minutes away from land due to faulty wiring and inadequate [if any] fire suppression? Quite sad really, and a far cry from 90-207minutes.... dont you think?

That has nothing to do with it being a trijet. That accident could have happened to a 4-engine, or a 2 engined aircraft.

All he's saying is if you lose an engine on a quadjet, you've got 3 others. While if you lose an engine on a twin, you've only got 1 engine.

Now, of course jet engines have become much more reliable and it's less of an issue (that's why twins are allowed to fly over oceans). However, all he's implying that if you've got a quadjet, you've still got 3 engines which is better than 1. You can't deny that.

Even the A340-300 which is an underpowered aircraft can lose 3 of it's 4 engines and that 1 35,000lb. of thrust CFM56-5C engine is sufficient to keep it in the air. So you essentially have 3 back-ups on a quad.

As for me, it doesn't matter since airliners have (whether twins or quads) have becoming extremely safe. If I'm gonna die in a plane crash, that's my fate and I'll accept it.

Regards



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21520 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2047 times:

ConcordeBoy: You're (not surprisingly) failing to grasp the point of the statement:

Well, I disagree with your opinion, so I must be completely stupid, of course!  Nuts


ConcordeBoy: Branson, during the Farnborough Airshow, attempted to lull his audience into believing that VS would never operate a twinjet on longhaul flights... when in fact VS has, and obviously (made apparent due to its enthusiasm for the proposed S.C.) would do so again.

You´re making stronger assumptions than the evidence seems to support...


ConcordeBoy: ....or how about when a trijet fries to a crisp 15 minutes away from land due to faulty wiring and inadequate [if any] fire suppression? Quite sad really, and a far cry from 90-207minutes.... dont you think?

It´s useless to compare outdated planes built to lower standards with current ETOPS-certified ones.

In a comparison between an A340-600, designed, built, equipped and operated to the same standards as a 777, there´s only one major difference in safety: After the second engine shutdown, only the A340 will have a chance to reach an airport beyond gliding distance.


ConcordeBoy: Nah, I was thinking more along the lines of his quote "if they can really do what they say they can, we'll be the first to order.... it will totally alter how we view the market!

The "if" being the operative word, as it turned out.


User currently offlineDC10Tony From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1987 times:

Yeah, I knew Virgin didn't have 777s, I just wanted to confirm it with everyone here.

I just told him that he was probably on a 747, because they're almost the same size, but he was so sure it was a 777 that he made a complete ass of himself trying to sound like he knew something.

I'll have to see if this clown will pay me when Monday comes. Then again, watching him make a fool out of himself was enough pay for me.  Smile


User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

Tony, did you rule out a code-share flight? Like Concordeboy mentioned earlier? Could have been one of their 777's.

Airbus_A340



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