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"Lufthansa And SAS Will Merge"  
User currently offlineFlanor From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 126 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4427 times:

William Gaillard of IATA told Danish newspaper Politiken that it is just a matter of time until we will see some sort of merger between SAS and Lufthansa. "This could happen within two years", he said.

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User currently offlineN737MC From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 678 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4370 times:

Yeah Ok, Link to actual article?

User currently offlineMarara From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 678 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4360 times:

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User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

N737MC:Well, I think the reason no article link was made is because the article is in Danish. If you can speak Danish and we have a link, please translate for me. Danish ≠ French (my second language).

Anyway, makes sense. Similar fleets and product (although I hear SAS's product is superior to many Euro carriers, especially on short-haul. And what would happen to the Scandinavian long-hauls, especially the non-CPH ones. I could see those being dropped in favour of feeding CPH, FRA, and MUC.

All in all, it'd be terrible to lose either identity as they are both unique carriers, SAS moreso.

LH423



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User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4346 times:

So, would they merge into a new airline called LufthanSAS or so?  Wink/being sarcastic

Greetings,
Ivan



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4335 times:

There is one big question if this really happens: will this airline become crappy like LH is or will it become a real good airline like SK is?

Patrick


User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4312 times:

You mean that crappy airline which is making money or the good airline which is losing it and sacking thousands of people? Big grin Big grin

User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4204 times:

Patrick,
I had expected you to say something like that. Laugh out loud
My sister always says that SAS uses a blue tail on it's new livery so that once the deal is done they can remove the "SAS" titles and glue the Lufthansa crane there. Would be cool hybrids, Lufthansa planes with a grey belly...

I remember a statement and I think it was made by Jürgen Weber back in 1997 when Star was launched. He said if the airlines don't have the option to later "get closer together" (let's just call it merging...) than such an alliance does not really make sense. So of course this might be an option but I believe both airlines have better things to do than to merge now.

Time will tell.

Max


User currently offlineJumbolino From Germany, joined Mar 2001, 490 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4073 times:

Patrick said this because *LH IS crappy*
the LH service in January this year (so it's comparable) in Business class (!)
was nearly the same than SNBA on Thursday was in ECO = Y-class !!!!!!
and if you compare Y class and c class fares you will know while we say crappy and it was Lufthansa City Line (and they are a lot better than their mom) and NOT Lufthansa itself
be true one year ago I had an LH itself BUS class flight (two to be true there I had also a return)
and this could be (depends on crew and aircraft) also compareable to Swiss Y class and the fares of course - NOT !
Hugh - I have told you  Wink/being sarcastic

Jumbolino.



Kind Regards, Jutta.
User currently offlineCaribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1637 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

Here's a link to an article discussing this topic..

http://www.businessday.co.za/bday/content/direct/1,3523,1325403-6078-0,0 0.html

With United, Air Canada and SAS in trouble I wonder if eventually Star Alliance will turn itself into a single brand airline? Consolidating planes, services, standards and have more power to negotiate better pricing for aircraft and airport services.. Individually the airlines could trim back their individual expenses while expanding their global presence..

I hope this doesn't happen but given the mess the aviation world is in at the moment I fear it may be on the horizon.

Doug

[Edited 2003-04-13 00:04:39]

User currently offlineLGB Photos From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3875 times:

I hope this does not happen. My grandfather(ex president of SAS) is just turning over in his grave right about now.

Stephen


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3828 times:
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I doubt it.
SAS is very wary of any "foreign influence" on their carrier. I think the current commercial agreements between LH and SAS are the furthest they will accept.
An AUA-LH merger (of sorts) might be more realistic in the long term.



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User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3696 times:

I dont quite believe this story . I am very doubt and hopeing that this wont happen .


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User currently offlineBoeingfan From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3687 times:

Good move for both carriers. But this may be wishful thinking, as SAS cost are a little higher then LH. Do not think the EUC would let this go through, then again, this would open the door for BA and KL to fully merge.

It all could happen, but doubt it, what bank is going to float more money around an airline these days?

Good luck to LH and Sk. Maybe, just maybe in 2008, when the industry is healthier.

2cents Bf


User currently offlineSobelair From Croatia, joined Sep 2000, 353 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3515 times:



Lufthansa and Austrian may actually merge. AUA's new CEO gave a statement few months ago (I still remember) on this issue. He said he expects AUA to merge with a bigger airline within the next five years, because AUA would be simply too small to survive alone.

My guess is that AUA could easily become Lufthansa Austria. ;o)


User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3475 times:

You know what they say about AUA - "Almost Unknown Airline"  Smile

They've already got the LH M&M Frequent Flyer Program.


User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

Thought they said LH is going to take over SWISS? Now SAS? Somebody needs to get their rumors correct.

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3393 times:

Thought they said LH is going to take over SWISS? Now SAS? Somebody needs to get their rumors correct.

Yes, I am wondering also. What`s next, LH will buy BA?

Patrick


User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3381 times:

Just thinking about a LH-AUA merger. How would that airline look after the wedding? Could it be a German airline, could it be a Austrain airline or would they have to go for the title European airline?
Looking at the lacking pride of Germans I could see them accept LH being european and not German...

Max


User currently offlineRickster From Austria, joined Dec 2000, 653 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3200 times:

Guys, sooner or later we will have new company scenario here in Europe. Our Airlinesystem in Europe is still based on the idea that every big or little country loves to keep its identity and independence based on a national carrier.

Most of the European Airlines from smaller Countries are for sure a way to big for their home markets surviving somehow with operating international hubs at their homebases. The rumor on a possible LH-OS merger is around since years. It may get intensified as the new LH CEO came from Austria some decades ago.

All mergers with Lufthansa, LH-SAS or LH-OS or even all three together, with the next canditate LOT, and with Frankfurt, Munich and in the future Berlin as LH hubs in the background will mean the end of international hub operations on the airports in this countries. This fact does for sure not please local economical interests and so i doubt that this will happen in the near future.
regards Rickster



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