This confuses me because it dosen't make sense that KLM would recycle the registration number of their 747 that was destroyed years ago. But I would also like to be believe that the NTSB has their facts straight.
So can someone enlighten me as to which, if either, is the correct registration of "The Rhine?" That was invovled in the Tenerife accident?
Brianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7872 times:
Thats probably true, the webmaster could have been reading a hand written document, and F and P kinda look the same. But thanks for clearing that up. too bad there aren't any photos of it in the database.
Vain~ From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7262 times:
This is not really related to the accident itself, but i always wondered :
The Panam ac diverted from Las Palmas (LPA), coming from LAX and JFK,
was this a scheduled flight, a "regular charter" or a adhoc of something else?
did Panam have more of this rather strange destinations in europe?
and did other big american carriers this aswell?
GARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1517 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7229 times:
Both B747s were charter flights operating for cruises. The PA flight
originated in LAX and just changed crews in JFK. There are numerous
articles about the crash, cause and effects. Let us hope such a disaster
never happens again..
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7196 times:
Both were also diversions from LPA.
LPA was closed due to a terrorist incident (bombthreat), leaving Teneriffe Sur overcrowded.
Pilots were unfamiliar with the airport, leading in the end to the accident (together with other factors like fatigue and controllers who didn't speak good English (leading to errors in interpretation of ATC instructions)).
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12435 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7068 times:
It is still eerie to think of the last words in the cockpit, (apart from the final expletives). The FE was the one who said "is he not clear, that Pan American", but the captain insisted he was. He was anxious to get out of there, due to crew hour restrictions and pushed the throttles forward, until reminded by the FO that he didn't have clearance. There was confusion about the words, "we are at takeoff".
A terrible tragedy for two great airlines, one of which is thankfully still with us.
Diezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7013 times:
The industry learned a lot about this extremely black day in aviation.
If you are interested, I can recommend this book: "The Naked Pilot" by David Beaty (isbn 1-85310-482-5). It is an excellent book about the human factor in aircraft accidents. What went wrong and what we learned from it. It is still in print as far as I know.
AWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 6950 times:
Some more trivia on this incident: The captain of the KLM flight, Cpt. Van Zanten,(correct spelling/pronounciation??) had been photographed for advertisments for the airline. He was (at the time) the company's star pilot.