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MSY Down To One Runway Soon  
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6413 posts, RR: 51
Posted (11 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3262 times:

In about 2 weeks, work crews will start on the complete re-surfacing of runway 1/19. This 7000ft. runway handles approx. 40% of MSY's traffic on a daily basis. Runway 10/28, at 10,200ft., will get all flight operations into Armstrong Internatonal until October, when the paving work will be complete. Then, the airport will resurface 10/28.

Hopefully by the time both runways are resurfaced, work will begin on the new 8000ft. runway that is planning on being built in the marshlands to the west of the field.

Also a quick note from F9 land....apparently some folks in FLL are pushing hard for FLL-MSY nonstops...


Steve in New Orleans




Next trip: MSY-SEA-GEG-SEA-LWS-BOI-PDX-SEA-LAS on AS
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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3237 times:

FLL-MSY on F9? Interesting. Frontier does almost no point to point flying right now. Do they even fly to F9?

Heh I think this might be the first time I realized it wasn't called Moissant Field anymore.  Laugh out loud

N


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6413 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3216 times:

F9 flies to FLL with a daily A319 to DEN...very popular route.

Technically, the name of the airport is still Moisant Field, as it was built on the "Moisant Stock Yards" way back in the day (hence MSY). But for public use, Louis Armstrong International sounds better.


Steve in NOLA



Next trip: MSY-SEA-GEG-SEA-LWS-BOI-PDX-SEA-LAS on AS
User currently offlineB1C17L1011 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3101 times:

Why build a new runway at MSY, it is a ghost town now. I once sat at an observation window at peak traffic time and there was not a single aircraft movement for over 15 minutes?

B1C17L1011


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6413 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3090 times:

The new runway will allow for all-weather operations as well as simultaneous takeoffs/landings at the same time. This current traffic downturn aside, the airport really needs this to grow and prosper. Also on the drawing board is an 8-gate extension of Concourse D, which will bring it from its current 7 to 15 gates. The plan is for Southwest to take over all of Concourses A and B, which will give it around about 18 usuable gates with well over 100 departures/day.


Steve in NOLA



Next trip: MSY-SEA-GEG-SEA-LWS-BOI-PDX-SEA-LAS on AS
User currently offlineStrickerje From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

It's been a while since I've heard anything about that proposed new runway west of the field. Weren't there a lot of wildlife activists protesting expansion into the marshland? What became of that?

User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6413 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3044 times:

From what I understand, the environmental study should wrap up soon...within a year or so. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that by late 2004 construction will begin. Of course, it could be delayed further. The real issue here is that the airport itself is in the city of Kenner, about 12 miles from downtown New Orleans, but the city of New Orleans owns the airport, so there's always squabbling about this and that.

I'm hoping that the people of Kenner realize that the expansion of the airport is a good thing and that it benefits the whole Gulf South area, not just New Orleans.

So with any luck, by 2010 or so we should see a new runway.

Another thing that's sparking interest here is the plan to fill in 25,000 acres of wetland just WEST of MSY and create a new passenger airport, complete with 11,000 ft runways. It would literally be only a few miles from where the current airport is located. The Monteleone family (owners of the famous Monteleone Hotel in N.O) have come up with the money (billions apparently) and have sought approval to fill in the wetlands. I don't know what to think of this...pretty odd I must say, considering the planned super cargo airport/intermodal facility in between N.O and BTR is rolling right along and could start constuction in a couple of years.

Steve in NOLA




Next trip: MSY-SEA-GEG-SEA-LWS-BOI-PDX-SEA-LAS on AS
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3014 times:

Having the advantage of being on MSY's airport management team, I'll throw out a few of my thoughts on the topics listed above:

1) runway 1/19 reconstruction: the tough time will come when we have to pave the area of runway that also serves as an overrun area/displaced threshold for runway 10/28. Runway 28 already has a short displacement on it. The repaving will cause this displacement to be moved 1,000 or so feet to the west. Consequently, the rollout distance for runway 10/28 will be shortened, and the ILS for runway 28 will be OTS for that duration.

2) if F9 were to serve FLL from MSY, I would think that it would be, in effect, a 'milk run' or 'tag' flight, originating or concluding at DEN, and serving MSY-FLL, sort of like the old TWA JFK-MSY-SAT milk run, or my old favorite that I used to fly, CO's DEN-MIA-FLL run.

3) to my knowledge, Southwest is just interested in concourse B. Once the extension to concourse D is completed, I believe NW will move over there, and US and US Express will take concourse A. There are plans to remove gates A2 and A4 (occupied by US Express) in order to add taxi cab parking (it is a bit of squeeze in there at times at those two gates).

4) expansion projects (concourse D and additional N/S runway): I see concourse D being extended long before a new N/S runway is done. I don't see the EIS for the runway being completed/accepted in the near future, and the city of Kenner and St. Charles Parish are definitely not for it.

I'm in the minority on this one, but I really don't see it being an advantage at this time, expecially when looking at the costs involved, the time in construction, and the various environmental and funding approvals that are needed.

I think we need to place a higher priority on terminal redevelopment (east end-concourses A and B) than on an additional runway.

5) regarding the proposed airport off to our west, most of us around look at that project, laugh long and loud about it, and give the respect it deserves, none. That project won't happen, FAA will never fund it, the logistics of attaching it to MSY (locals here will consider I-310),and I wonder about private funding.

Tom in NO (at MSY)



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineAA717driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

Tom--I don't think losing the ILS 28 for awhile will seriously impair the arrival and departure rates. In fact, I've never seen anyone land on 28(although I tend to avoid flying to MSY due to the usual bright red splotch on the radar over southern LA Big grin).TC


FL450, M.85
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2968 times:

Tom,

Re: the 1/19 and 10/28 projects, are those just pavement overlays, or are they taking each runway down to bare ground and starting over with new concrete?

Thanks...


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2929 times:

considering the planned super cargo airport/intermodal facility in between N.O and BTR is rolling right along

Being a native of White Castle (the town alongside Donaldsonville within which the new cargo port is proposed).... I wish I could agree with what you just said, but alas, I cannot  Sad

There is fierce opposition to the airfield, the likes of which have never been seen in this location before. At the latest parish council vote for East Ascension, more people showed up to vote "nay" against the airport than showed up for the Presidential election of 2000! And that's not even counting the [very few] who voted "aye"  Sad


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4183 posts, RR: 37
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2924 times:

No kidding about the thunderstorms that always sit around there... everytime I've been there I've always been the only one on approach. Last time i went in winds were out of the NW at 25 gusting to 40 knots.. woo hoo!


Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2928 times:

OPNLguy, here's some more info for you:

a) runway 1/19 repaving/reconstruction is set to begin on April 28. It is a 6-month project. 18" of pavement will be removed and replaced with Portland concrete. Since the runway in places exceeds 5' deep, it is not considered a reconstruction. Also, taxiway Sierra north of runway 10/28 gets the same treatment (yeah, no more washboard effect!).

b) the area that intersects with the threshold of runway 28 is scheduled to be worked on beginning May 12, that is a 20-day segment. During that time, the threshold to runway 28 will be relocated approximately 1,000' from the western side of runway 1/19, leaving roughly 9,330' of usable pavement on 10/28. Of course, during this time, the ILS to 28 will be down.

c) as a part of this project, a new exit from runway 1 will be built just north of the intersection of runway 24. Also, new lighting and signage will be installed.

d) runway 10/28 repaving has been pushed back a bit. We want to do it in conjuction with a parallel canal enclosure project and a levee-raising project, both of which are still in the design stage.

All the dates listed were read to me today. Of course, as we all know, when these things actually come to pass, a list of NOTAM's eight pages long will be issued (fun and games!!!).

AA717driver: the ILS to 28 is rarely used, as you say. However, with 1/19 ready to be closed down for 6 months (we lose two ILS's with that), losing one of the remaining two on 10/28 is making us hope for good weather for those 20 days.  Smile

Tom in NO (at MSY)

PS: for those reading this who are curious to to the layout at MSY, please see http://www.naco.faa.gov/content/naco/online/airportdiagrams/00609AD.pdf



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