FlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6049 posts, RR: 25 Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2329 times:
Yes, you are correct. As of Aug 1, DFW will be all jet.
Regional aircraft will include ERJ135's, ERJ145's, CRJ200's and CRJ700's, but no props. In fact, the only prop's left in the entire DL system will be the 19 ATR72's flown out of ATL and the EMB120's flown out of SLC. I don't really count the Eagle SF340's that DL codeshares out of LAX on.
ILE will be dropped. Poor ILE recently lost CO and now DL. The only one left will be AA.
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4006 posts, RR: 23 Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2240 times:
Okay...all jets...how bout some N/S service to TOL?
Any opinion/comment posted is that of my own and not that of Southwest Airlines Co.
AA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13975 posts, RR: 59 Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2228 times:
I was told that AA was dropping all the props for RJ's and ERJ's etc..
Drdivo From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 118 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2222 times:
Interesting that ILE has been dropped by both DL and CoEx - a few months back, I looked into flying up there (it's about a 3 hour drive from Houston) and it would have been cheaper to fly to Europe!
Petazulu From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 701 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2183 times:
I used to fly to Killeen for work from DFW all the time on Delta. The planes were always packed!
Too bad that town will lose air service becuase of this. I guess they need to lengthen their runway to accomodate a baby-jet.
Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 43 Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2166 times:
Ryan, AA wont drop the props for a few years. They have several routes that can only be profitable if served by prop. You have to remember that they still have around 30-40 SAAB 340 remaining...so they will have to replace most of those.
Jhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6195 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2151 times:
The runway at Killeen is 5495 feet long. That should be enough for a RJ.
Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
Atcboy73 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1100 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2138 times:
I heard that one of the main reasons CO express was leaving was because of the runway length. I guess they had to operate with a lot of empty seats. I remember talking to an Eagle pilot that said the runway length left no room for error when they operated the ATRs in there.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6874 posts, RR: 29 Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2115 times:
Eagle is planning on operating Saab's on certain routes out of DFW & LAX for several more years.
The ATR's will remain in MIA & SJU for several more years too.
Eagle hasn't set a timeline to become all-jet, yet.
Brons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2969 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2110 times:
The runway at Ft Hood can accomodate any plane made, why not just use that instead as a mixed use airport? It's not that far off the highway.
Firings, if well done, are good for employee morale.
Ramper@iah From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 240 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2097 times:
Service to ILE was dropped by Continental Express due to the fact that the runway had to be dry in order for the EMB-135 to land there. Too many flights were being cancelled because of this. The required runway length for the aircraft to land when the runway was "contaminated" (wet) was in excess of what is availible at ILE. The EMB-145 couldn't fly there because it's too long to make a 180 degree turn on the runway. When the Gray AFB opens for airline operations, COEX will resume service.
Petazulu From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 701 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2084 times:
Bery interesting stuff Ramper@iah! I had no idea about the turning radious or wet runway issues at ILE.
I was told the runway was just too short for any RJ operation. Guess I was wrong- but right in the sense that it makes no commericial sense to operate jets from there.
DeltaBoy777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 411 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2011 times:
I think this is a good move by Delta and Delta Connection. I believe a lot of people are afraid of props and would much rather fly a jet powered plane. Personally, I think to be a true airline enthusiast you HAVE to ride a prop! Look for DFW to be the Connection Hub for all of Delta's systems. (Comair, SkyWest---Already, ASA---Already, and Chautauqua--sooner or later!).
Atcboy73 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1100 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1979 times:
Think of how this affects traffic flow at DFW.
When on a south flow, DFW uses one runway for nothing but props. I think its 13L. Its the one runway that is off to the east of the airport and not alligned with most of the other parrallels. I guess this will now be used for only the SF340s and B1900 that Air Midwest is operating out of DFW.
Could mean Delays will be increasing. But then again, American has now gone to the de-peaked operation so the back up may not be all that much.
Either way it means that one runway is going to see less traffic.
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