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Runway Just For Commuter Type Aircraft  
User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2849 times:

Hi all-

Is there any airport in the world that has a runway just for commuter aircraft like the Q400, EMB-125, CRJ-200, CRJ-700



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User currently offlineUSFLyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2028 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2816 times:

Philadelphia (PHL) has one that is used extensively, although it is too short for CRJ and ERJ's.

User currently offlineAtcboy73 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1100 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2805 times:

I think BWI has one and STL has a small runway that used to be a taxiway that they use for commuter aircraft.

User currently offlineAFC_ajax00 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

What about London City Airport?


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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11140 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2771 times:

PDX uses 3/21 for feeder planes (FedEx, Ameriflight) and sometimes private planes like Piper Navajo. I have seen QX Dash 8s land on that one before too. BFI uses the shorter runway for Ameriflight and West Isle Air as well as the other private planes (Cessna 152/172 and the like).

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User currently offlineDoug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3381 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2712 times:

3/21 at PDX is also used for narrowbodies


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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2707 times:

PHL actually has two commuter runways, 17/35 (5459 ft.) and 8/26 (5000 ft)

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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8869 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2685 times:

At BOS, 15L/33R (about 2300') is used for small GAs, Cape Air, and some Beech 1900Ds. The proposed 14/32 would be 5000', and dedicated to commuters, including the CRJ, ERJ, FRJ, and some 737/A32X (Shuttle flights, etc.)

Jeff


User currently offlineScootertrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 569 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

USFLyer MSP:

That is not entirely true. I see ERJs land on 26 allot, and sometimes the odd CRJ that is not too heavy. Now taking off is another matter entirely. I have never seen an RJ depart off of rwy 8 (no departures off of 26 permitted).


User currently offlineWmupilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1473 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

GRR has a shorter runway that can be used by commuters 8L/26R (5000 or so Ft) However the traffic loads aren't like those at PHL so it is mainly used for GA traffic


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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7737 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2551 times:

IAH's old runway 15R/33L was around 5000x100. When it was open I only ever saw ATRs and an occasional GA craft depart from it. Given the traffic volume and runway setup at IAH it was no wonder that they rebuilt to runway to handle jet aircraft. That way you can get 2 departure and 2 arrival runways operating at the sametime.

Given the rapid disappearance of turboprops at most major airports these smaller runways are becoming somewhat useless for the regional jets that are replacing them.



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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4467 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2545 times:

Given the rapid disappearance of turboprops at most major airports these smaller runways are becoming somewhat useless for the regional jets that are replacing them.

Isn't PHL's east-west commuter runway unidirectional too? It practically points right at three tall structures less than a half-mile away--two ground-control towers and the Marriott. Seemed like a dumb design to me, and only 5,000 feet long at the airport US has long designated for more RJ's. Fortunately US Express DeHavillands can still get use out of it when the wind's right.

PHL would do much better to move the ATCT to the terminal complex, move UPS to the northwest end of the field, and build a new 2-mile runway close to the river. That way, they'd have all-weather parallel mainline jet operations. PHL is an airport with a promising future, whether US survives or not. They'd serve their pax much better with that arrangement.

Jim


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6006 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2541 times:

Good point Doug....I have lots of picture's of our (AS) planes arriving on 21 in strong winds. What a blast!!!! ASSFO


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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

EWR has a shorter runway that is used primarily for Commuter aircraft.


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User currently offlineYow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2490 times:

YQB's Runway 12-30 @ 5700 ft / 1737 m can pretty much only be used by turboprops.

User currently offlineGoboeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2679 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

And to add to what DCA-ROCguy said,
Runway 8/26 at PHL is restricted to landing west and departing east. So if the 27s are in use, which they usually are, then only landings on 26, parallel to the 27R jet arrivals. If the 9s are in use, then only departures on 8, and jets departing on 9L, so they can't really depart parallel and so the operation is just extremely slow and promotes very large delays. This runway would be much more effective if it had been made maybe 6000' or whatever ERJs and corporate jets would need. I hear very few jets landing on 26.

Nick


User currently offlineScootertrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 569 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

Some additional comments regarding PHL:

It is an interesting place indeed. In addition to 8/26, 17/35 is used all the time by turboprop and small jet equipment unless the winds are REALLY screaming out of the east or west. What makes this so much fun is how the controllers space the traffic with the crossing runways. It usually goes something like this (I work for Piedmont):

ATC: Piedmont XXXX, do you have the 737 over the bridge in sight?

Me: Affirmative

ATC: Very good, cleared to land 35, land behind that 737 on a three mile final, he is going to 27R.

This is LOTS of fun  Yeah sure . You either have to land short of the intersection (less than 1000 feet from the threshold) or land well past the intersection of 35 and 27R in order the avoid the wake turbulence of the aircraft landing 27R. Loads of fun. I thought STL was bad when I flew out there, but PHL is just plain nuts.


User currently offlineNorthwestair From Poland, joined Jul 2001, 641 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

What about EYW 9/27 5000' I think the rwy is that lenght Big grin



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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6006 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

Isn't Atlanta working on buliding at commuter runway on the north side? ASSFO


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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5222 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2422 times:

Washington Reagan National Airport has 15/33 (5200 ft.) for commuters. Since traffic is down at that airport I haven't noticed it in use lately.


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User currently offlineScootertrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 569 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2393 times:

Massey:

We use 15/33 and 4/22 all the time at DCA.


User currently onlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4184 posts, RR: 37
Reply 21, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2374 times:

Yeah.. ATL is building a new runway.. it's on the southside though... you can see all the dirt and stuff being torn down. Looks like its quite a ways away though. Haven't seen much change on it for a while.

away.. a way.... yeah...something.



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