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United's 'Round The World Service  
User currently offlineUnitedFirst From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 478 posts, RR: 2
Posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3612 times:

Could anyone tell me exactly when United reinstated the 'Round the World service in the late-90s? My guess is April 1999, but I was looking for something a bit more accurate.

A brief history of United's 'Round the World service would be excellent...if anyone's willing!

Thanks,
Derek

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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9602 posts, RR: 69
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3601 times:
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http://www.unitedairlines.co.jp/jsp/en/about/press_releases/2000/june02.jsp

User currently offlineHA_DC9 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 653 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3593 times:

I thought the 'Round-The-World' flight was discontinued again after 9/11? I did a flight search on UAL.com and it is saying that market is not served by United.

User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3557 times:

The UA RTW service was discontinued well before 9/11. Although they went halfway around then back.


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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3551 times:

I hope they will fly this route again one day.

RTW was supposed to replaced by ORD-DEL but the plan was cancelled after 9.11


User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3436 times:

United operated a 'Round the world flight from the mid 90s until the Asian economic crisis (ca. 1997). Initially, a 767-300ER flew from LAX-JFK-LHR-DEL-HKG with a 747-400 from HKG-LAX. (and vice versa). United did not have fifth freedom rights from HKG-DEL, so it could only send pax on the HKG-DEL flight who were coming from LAX and points beyond, and only pax on the DEL-HKG who were going to said destinations.

Even with the lack of 5th freedom rights crippling passenger loads, the cargo on the DEL-HKG/HKG-DEL sector was lucrative, so United introduced the 747-400 on those legs at one point.

The route was reborn in 1999 and continued for slightly over a year until late 2000 with a new routing of LAX-IAD-LHR-DEL-HKG, this time with all legs except LHR-DEL being 747-400s (I believe IAD-LHR was either a 747-400 or 777-200). It was one of the first route casualties following the start of the economic downturn in mid 2000.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3422 times:

This route was suspended after the Asian Financial Crisis. Before that, ALL FLIGHTS were flown by the B 767-300 except HKG-LAX (Vice Versa). That route was reinstated in 2000 or 2001 (I forgot!) and it went ALL B 747-400! At one point they planned to replace HKG-DEL, as well as DEL-LHR with ORD-DEL nonstop but the plan was dropped after 9.11. And RTW was suspended as well.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Hope this route will come back one day.

Regards.


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3420 times:

United did not have fifth freedom rights from HKG-DEL, so it could only send pax on the HKG-DEL flight who were coming from LAX and points beyond, and only pax on the DEL-HKG who were going to said destinations.

Not correct. UAL did have LIMITED 5th freedom rights on the segments ex-DEL, constrained by a specific proportion of capacity that could be sold as standalone 5th freedom segments.

The route was reborn in 1999 and continued for slightly over a year until late 2000 with a new routing of LAX-IAD-LHR-DEL-HKG, this time with all legs except LHR-DEL being 747-400s

Again, not correct. The route was reborn in April 2001 and continued until September 2001. It was a 747-400 all the way through in both directions daily.


User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3394 times:

Could another US airline like Northwest Airlines or Delta Airlines which already fly to India fly the same 'Round The World Service.

User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

OK, thanks for the corrections. I've lost track... didn't realize the second iteration was so short-lived. During late 2000/2001 United a slew of TERRIBLE decisions that contributed to the huge loss for 2001/2002... and many of these decisions were impractical "flagship" flights -- such as the RTW flights, JFK-HKG, and prior to JFK-HKG, LAX-MEL.

The press release was right here all along (click on the United Japan link).

Quote:
"United first launched 'Round-the-World service in December 1995. In the fall of 1999, the airline temporarily suspended Delhi service due the Asian economic recession. "

[Edited 2003-04-29 17:20:33]

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