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SIA Terminates ORD, LAS, KHH..., Capacity Cut  
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5667 times:

With demand for air travel continuing to decline, primarily due to the SARS virus, Singapore Airlines (SIA) today announced further frequency reductions, bringing its total capacity cuts in April and May 2003 to 28.9 per cent in terms of available seat kilometres.

This latest round of cuts, which affects services in all regions but especially North and South East Asia, will result in up to 298 fewer weekly frequencies during the month of May. Services to five destinations that were previously suspended until 31 May have now been terminated: Chicago, Las Vegas, Kaohsiung, Hiroshima and Mauritius.

Services to Fukuoka and Jeddah will be temporarily suspended from 8 May and 15 May respectively.

The launch of services to Bangalore, initially planned for 1 May and later deferred until 12 June, has again been deferred, with no new date decided at this stage.

The attached table shows the original number of frequencies to the affected destinations (in accordance with published schedules for Northern Summer) and the revised number, after deducting those that have been cut during the month of May.



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5624 times:

This is a testing time for the Airline. Hopefully, the effect of SARS will not be too prolonged.

Singapore Airlines' flight frequencies in May:




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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5620 times:

Services to five destinations that were previously suspended until 31 May have now been terminated: Chicago, Las Vegas, Kaohsiung, Hiroshima and Mauritius.

Where is BRU in that list?

Regards
Frederic


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4756 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5600 times:

I guess the decision to suspend Brussels has already been announced before that??


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User currently offline9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5592 times:

I think he's talking about terminating.

Add HKG to that list. Going daily from 3rd to 16th May. How terrible the situation is......

Best Regards


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5579 times:

I heard from two different sources that the staff in BRU is already informed that SQ will withdraw from pax flights  Sad

Since SQ will upgrade the cargo flights to 12x weekly, some staff will probably go to the cargo division...

Very sad to see them going  Sad

Regards
Frederic


User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6615 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5505 times:

Does anyone know how much cash reserves SQ has in the bank? Also how much is government owned? If it came down to it, would the Singapore Government bail out SQ?

User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1518 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5495 times:


Since it shows that SQ is cutting the LAX flights in half, which flight
is being cancelled. The one from SIN/NRT or SIN/TPE????
That is a big change as they have been double daily to LAX for
at least the last 10 years...



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User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5479 times:

Arrivals of SQ in HKG

30-04-2003
=========

12:15 SQ 860 Singapore B Singapore A'Line Arr. gate 12:03
17:15 SQ 866 Singapore B Singapore A'Line Arr. gate 17:03

01-05-2003
=========

12:15 SQ 860 Singapore Singapore A'Line
17:15 SQ 866 Singapore Singapore A'Line


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5375 times:

GarudaOrd: On the easier to see timetable for the week starting 5 May 2003:

SQ012 departs Singapore on Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays at 0945, arriving at 1250 in Los Angeles. (MEGATOP)
SQ030 departs Singapore on Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Sundays at 1715, arriving at 2000 in Los Angeles. (MEGATOP)

SQ029 departs Los Angeles on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays at 0120, arriving at 1130 the next day in Singapore. (MEGATOP)
SQ011 departs Los Angeles on Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays at 1450, arriving at 0110 two days later in Singapore. (MEGATOP).

Unfortunately, there are no services with Singapore Airlines Limited between Los Angeles and Singapore on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays.



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User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5357 times:

So SFO is totally gone?

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5338 times:

SFO via ICN is still alive.

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5280 times:

Singapore Airlines SQ0319 and SQ0318 to and from London Heathrow to Singapore respectively will no longer operate on Tuesdays and Wednesdays (MEGATOP).

Singapore Airlines SQ0175 and SQ0176 to and from Hanoi Noi Bai to Singapore respectively will no longer operate on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Sundays (JUBILEE) (Presumably JUBILEE ER).

Singapore Airlines SQ0231 and SQ0232 to and from Sydney to Singapore respectively will no longer operate. (JUBILEE 300) Sydney continues to be served by morning and evening departures from Singapore and afternoon and mid-afternoon departures from Sydney (MEGATOP)

Singapore Airlines SQ0215 and SQ0216 to and from Perth to Singapore respectively will no longer operate on Tuesdays, Thrusdays and Saturdays and Wednesdays and Fridays respectively. (JUBILEE) (Indication towards a JUBILEE ER)

Singapore Airlines SQ0859 and SQ0860 to and from Hong Kong to Singapore will be the only flight operating from Hong Kong daily departing Hong Kong at 0930 and arriving at 1215 in Singapore and departing Singapore at 1330 and arriving at 1705 in Hong Kong. (JUBILEE 300) (Previously the destination was served by JUBILEE 200 aircraft)



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User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

SQ772 already mentioned this in another thread.

I heard pre-SARS that MI was evaluating KHH again, but don't expect anything to happen for some time. SQ/MI have had such a chequered history with this station I wonder why they even bother anymore.

Cx_flyboy:
I think the Temasek Group owns 57% of SIA. I don't know how much cash is on hand, I guess we'll find out when they release their FY02/03 results - this is usually done sometime in May. As for whether the government will bail them out, that remains anybody's guess. I would think loan guarantees are a definite, beyond that it is hard to tell. The government has been trying to encourage government-linked companies to function more like private enterprises, with mixed results. I don't know if they'll reverse this policy in crisis situations like this.



User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5231 times:

CX flyboy: According to hoovers.com SQ had $592MM in cash in Mar02.

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5191 times:

Meanwhile...

"Twelve cabin crew on a returning Singapore Airlines flight from Hong Kong have been served Home Quarantine Orders by the Health Ministry.
An SIA spokesman said this was because a passenger onboard flight SQ859 might have been suffering from SARS."

"Two airline passengers have been picked up as SARS-suspect cases through thermal scanning at Changi Airport. Both have been admitted to Tan Tock Seng Hospital. The Health Ministry said the first air traveller, who lives in Hong Kong, had arrived on Singapore Airlines flight SQ859 on April 27 at 5.00 pm."

Anzett.



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User currently offlineTi717 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 227 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

Any Cargo Changes?

BRU, ORD and DFW still have cargo service.

TI717





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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5174 times:

Singapore Airlines Cargo Pte Limited - a subsidiary of Singapore Airlines Pte Limited flights are operating as normal.

The war surcharge of US$0.25 per kilogram of cargo has been cancelled.



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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5146 times:

Singapore Airlines Cargo Pte Limited - a subsidiary of Singapore Airlines Pte Limited flights are operating as normal.

For the humans under us: 'SQC flights are operating normal'.

/Frederic


User currently offlineDanialanwar From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 421 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5109 times:

So with ORD out of the picture, we might see SIN-AMS-MAN flights again ... as discussed in another thread.

I was always wondering why certain Asian flights have not been "passed on to" MI, such as KHH, BKI, KCH, PEN, SUB ... maybe as codeshare or "operated by" deals



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5075 times:

Let's look at the Las Vegas Sun and how it has reported (in honesty and truth) about the SIA flights and what information SIA has given.

20 January 2003:
"James Boyd, a spokesman for Singapore Airlines in Los Angeles, said the Las Vegas flight continues to perform well for the carrier. He said ticket sales in Asia have been strong, but that the company is trying to increase sales of tickets in Southern Nevada.

"We came off a really strong high season," Boyd said. "The challenge for us has been to encourage Las Vegans to travel to Southeast Asia and that continues to be one of our big pushes."

28 January 2003:
"They (Singapore) would not announce something like this unless they had a pretty good indication that the Asian economy is going to come back," Boyd said. "It's great for Las Vegas if (the airline) sees a rebound in Asian traffic."

(James Boyd is the Manager of U.S.A. operations)

19 March 2003:
Singapore Airlines, which introduced nonstop service between Hong Kong and Las Vegas last summer, has no plans for service reductions, but spokesman James Boyd said the situation is being closely monitored.

James Boyd said the airline already has begun attempting to form new alliances with Strip properties for package deals that would encourage tourism from Southeast Asia. He said the pre-emptive move is not an indication that demand is weak, although Asian tourists traditionally have shown the most caution about traveling in times of turmoil.

20 March 2003 (one day later):
Singapore Airlines, which inaugurated nonstop service between Las Vegas and Hong Kong last summer, will suspend its twice-a-week flights for two months beginning in April because of low demand anticipated with the outbreak of war in Iraq.

"We're disappointed," said Rob Powers, a spokesman for LVCVA. "This pretty much caught us by surprise. We're confident it will be a temporary situation because the partnership between Las Vegas and Singapore Airlines is a good one and will continue to work. It came as a complete surprise to us," said Grey.

Singapore spokesman James Boyd said the airline's current plan is to suspend the flights from April 7 through May 31. That means the last nonstop flight from Hong Kong would arrive in Las Vegas April 7 because of the schedule. Boyd said that plan could change, depending on what occurs in Iraq.
----

Most intriguing.



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User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5076 times:

I was always wondering why certain Asian flights have not been "passed on to" MI, such as KHH, BKI, KCH, PEN, SUB ... maybe as codeshare or "operated by" deals

While a lot of regional flights could be operated more profitably by MI, there are various reasons why SQ has held on to them.

Some flights are strategically important to SQ. PEN would be an example - SIA had to fight hard and long to win rights to PEN, and to not operate those flights with SQ metal could potentially weaken SQ's position in future bilateral ASA negotiations.

SQ guards it brand identity jealously. While MI's service levels are high, it isn't SQ - no PTVs, less frills, and dare I say it - less attractive female FAs. SQ will not want too many flights to be passed on to MI for that reason, nor will they place their codes on MI flights.

MI does not operate widebodies. A big factor in SE Asia where size, apparently, does matter  Smile/happy/getting dizzy MI tried operating A310s for a while - huge disaster! They won't be in a hurry to operate another widebody for a long time.

MI is not a member of the Star Alliance - they only accept SQ's KrisFlyer. They have assessed that it isn't worth it to join Star. Handing over key routes with high business traffic (SUB, SGN, HAN, etc) would cause non-Asian based frequent flyers to avoid both SQ and MI if they can find an alternative to their destination that will yield FF miles all the way.







User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5059 times:

S-Air: I would not put too much credence on James Boyd's statements. And he is not the Manager of SIA operations - he is the PR person. Yes, the same one who announced prematurely that there were no known fatalities on SQ6.

User currently offlineDocpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4909 times:

I'm flying SIN-ICN this Sunday and it's full. No seats available on all classes.

I suppose with all the capacity cuts they'd better be selling at least 70% of their seats!


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4901 times:

Damn no SIA 777s at ORD. Oh man that just sucks, thank god I got them before they left...

25 Docpepz : Routing ORD through AMS was a mistake. Couldn't they have done it through FRA? Definitely more high yield! And if they could codeshare with LH like th
26 Cx flyboy : Ex_SQer, SQ have 500-odd Million US$ in the bank? That's not very much. At least SQ aren't as hard hit as Cathay, so hopefully they will be able to wh
27 SQ772 : S_Air...when you grow older, you'll learn how to read in between the lines of PR statements by James Boyd or any PR person in any company/airline. PR
28 Post contains links Ex_SQer : Cx_flyboy: http://www.hoovers.com/annuals/7/0,2168,41497,00.html Not a pretty sight. Cash down, receivables up, debt up. Docpepz: Did they have the ri
29 Mhz : With regards to PEN, browsing through LH timetable, LH codeshares with TG to PEN, where both of them are Star Alliance members
30 Ryanair!!! : A few questions from this humble fool... MI tried operating A310s for a while - huge disaster! What actually happened? They have assessed that it isn'
31 Ex_SQer : MI started flying to KHH initially with 733s around 1993. The route was at first a huge success and it quickly grew to a daily flight. Then BR and CI
32 LJ : So with ORD out of the picture, we might see SIN-AMS-MAN flights again ... I don't think so. SQ currently operates two SIN-AMS-SIN along with the SIN-
33 Post contains links Singapore_Air : Anzett
34 LJ : Untill SQ decided to fly via AMS nobody but KLM flew this route Oops, I should have said nobody KLM and KU. This leaves only KLM and KU currently on t
35 Nicogagne : I am going to CHC, New Zealand next month and I would like to know which SIA flight will be canceled from May 19th. SIA presently operates 5 flights p
36 Singapore_Air : Nicogagne, this information is not currently available. Please hold...
37 9V-SVA : I have obtained loads from fellow member B747-437B and he notes that SIN-ICN-YVR is full, however BOM-SIN had only 150 pax for today's flight. 9V-SVA
38 Docpepz : I'm travelling SIN-ICN on Y this Sunday on SQ16. It is full in all classes!
39 Singapore 777 : Without SQ2, I'd expect SQ16 to be full now, especially since it's a B777-200ER and not a B747-400. Anybody knows what is going on with SQ12 and SQ30
40 Hkg82 : Has SQ announced they would defer the delivery of the A340-500s? I think they did but can’t remember. Hkg82.
41 Singapore_Air : Doc you're leaving the country?! Goodness gracious. Let me know what your temperature is! SQ0882 to ICN (Jubilee 300) is full today and tomorrow. SQ01
42 Post contains images Hkg82 : Have a good trip Doc. You meeting any a.netters there? You must’ve wondered why I haven’t been online much on ICQ as of late. Well I’
43 Zrs70 : In looking at the SQ website, the LAX-SIN service will be twice daily 3-4 days a week, one stopping in LAX, the other in TPE. Service will be MWFS. It
44 9V-SVA : Singapore 777, SQ12 and SQ30 now seem to operate on alternate day, for example yesterday(May 1), when I met up with fellow A.net user B747-437B, SQ12
45 Rupertvander82 : So does this mean that SIA will definitely report a loss for this financial year?
46 Ex_SQer : The end of the current financial year is almost 11 months away, so whether SQ will take a loss is anybody's guess. I will expect that they (and everyo
47 9V-SVA : So does this mean that SIA will definitely report a loss for this financial year? Rupertvander82, it would be hard to tell as FY03/04 is still a LONG
48 Hkg82 : Yes, it’s still way too early to presume the worst for SIA (i.e. making a loss). Who would’ve thought only two months ago that we’d
49 Docpepz : Oh Hkg82 Nice to know you're alive! I think Amy Or of CNA is cuter than Glenda Chong. And Melissa Heng stopped wearing a mask for her live reports and
50 Post contains images Hkg82 : Whoa, overbooked on both classes? How many daily flights does SQ have to ICN at this time? I’m pretty sure they’ve decreased the frequency
51 Airbus_A340 : "Amazing! Look what SARS has done!" You mean the media... Airbus_A340
52 Post contains images Hkg82 : To the media. Watch any story of SARS in Hong Kong or elsewhere on CNN or BBC and you'll see what I mean. The media has sensationalized the whole issu
53 Ex_SQer : A very wise Asian-American female standup comedian calls it "Severe Asian Racism Syndrome", after an incident at YYZ when four hunky white men put up
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