Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5652 times:
The difference between First and those Sky beds is so infinitesimal.
Who the hell wants Dom perignon and caviar in a more egalitarian world anyways? Most of the folks flying First and Business are a bunch of exhausted businessmen and women who just want to sleep.
Rupertvander82 From France, joined Dec 2002, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5626 times:
I think this 345 will complement the SIN-FRA-JFK service, otherwise they will loose out quite a fair bit amount of revenue on the FRA-JFK route. Hopefully things will sort out quickly, otherwise it'll not be profitable to start a non stop service to JFK.
And I suppose more space in Economy is rather obvious. If they still configure the economy at a 33' and Raffles at 60', the wouldn't it have a lot of unused space with only 181 seats?
TR From UK - England, joined May 2001, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5439 times:
There will be much more seats than a total of 181. Let´s say the aircraft will have 64 Raffles Skybed. They will be arranged with app 60" pitch. Using the Airbus layout examples for the A345, the aircraft will hold 30 seats between doors one and two. An additional 36 Raffles seats in the forward part of the cabin section between door two and three (bringing the total to 66 at 60" pitch). According to the Airbus layout example there should then remain room for 187 economy seats arranged in 32" pitch. 32" pitch is actually Economy Class standard on most SIA aircraft so my best guess will be (taken that the figure of 64 Raffles seats is correct) that SIA will operate the aircraft with 64 Raffles and 181 Economy - not 181 as the total number of seat. I don´t believe that the A345 would be economical to place into service with only 181 seats.
Sq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5411 times:
Is it true that due to the length of the flights that will be operated with these A345s, SIA has Econ Class configured in a more spacious and comofrtable layout than the current layouts that are prevelant in the rest of their fleet? I even heard rumors of a 2-3-2 lay out in Econ...but I havent a clue as to the validity of that.
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5359 times:
"(which I think Singapore_Air is not)"
Yeah well you wouldn't. Stick it.
The source works very high up in Singapore Airlines' ranks so he is very credible.
The SpaceBed (The Skybed is used by some other airline) and the Economy Class seats will probably be allowed to take up mre space. Economy for example at a 35" seat pitch. 18 hours at 33" is unacceptable. 36" would be nice but might be too optimistic.
Singapore 777 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1015 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5222 times:
It may well be 181 total seats because they may have reserved certain areas of the aircraft for other uses and because the economy class will definitely have more than 32" pitch (perhaps closer to the region of 34-35") and because the economy seats may well be wider than normal.
QatarAirways From Qatar, joined Sep 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4977 times:
"Is it going to a sleek one that competes with the 777's interior, unlike the same old setup Airbus has in its 346 airplanes?"
The A346 has the new interior and not the old set up but IMO the 777 is still better looking. The A32X, A330-200/-300 and A340-300 all have updated interiors too. On the A320 the changes are minor only such as different overhead bin handles.
777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 4 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4910 times:
So wait, Singapore Airlines doesn't want to release any information unless Cathay copy them......yet you're releasing VERY important information about a new service Singapore are offering? Without an official press release and going from informational released to your personally from "someone high up" at SA?
Don't you think that's a bit stupid? You've just given away SA secret to Cathay.
Airplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (11 years 4 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4872 times:
What do you think a ticket on one of these flights will cost? I doubt that they would just be a normal priced ticket. SQ has to make money from operating the plane on these routes and with 181 seats, the seats would need to cost more to ride in. Do you think they would be a lot more expensive considering it is kind of a luxury to get from North America to Singapore without stopping, sort of like the Concorde (not as expensive though) with getting between Europe and North America in three and a half hours? Do you have any guess as to how much it would cost to fly one of these routes in economy and in business? I know it's impossible to guess for sure, but do you have a rough estimate?