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USAirways Express Orders Bombardier And Embraer  
User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4172 times:

Hot off the press. Straight out of Ch. 11 and ordering new planes.

Press Release Source: US Airways


US Airways Places Record Regional Jet Order With Bombardier and Embraer
Monday May 12, 9:00 am ET
Agreement Comprises Both 50-Seat and 70-seat Aircraft


ARLINGTON, Va., May 12 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- US Airways has set into motion another key element of its business recovery plan today with an agreement to purchase a total of at least 170 Canadair and Embraer regional jets from Bombardier Aerospace of Canada and Embraer of Brazil, respectively. The first aircraft delivery is scheduled for October 2003.

The order equally splits between the world's two leading regional jet manufacturers a combination of 170 firm orders and 380 options to purchase aircraft. The estimated value of the firm order, based upon list price, is approximately $4.3 billion. Financing terms were not disclosed.

"These new regional jets will enable US Airways to generate additional revenue by growing our route network and competing more vigorously in short- to-medium-length haul markets," said US Airways President and Chief Executive Officer David N. Siegel. "The RJs also will enable us to increase hub feed by adding new markets that were too distant for turboprop aircraft, and replace current turboprop flying, which will please many customers who prefer jet aircraft. Regional jets will allow us to replace and complement larger jet aircraft on routes with poor to marginal performance, which then can be re- deployed to operate in more profitable destinations, such as the Caribbean and on other routes where we currently do not fly."

"Both manufacturers were extremely aggressive in vying for our business. I believe that this agreement is going to benefit US Airways and its employees, and brings the greatest value to our company," said Siegel. "As a result of this great deal, we were able to split the order equally between Bombardier and Embraer."

Under the Bombardier agreement, US Airways has firm orders for 60 CRJ Series 200, 50-seat single-class aircraft; and 25 CRJ Series 700, 75-seat dual-class aircraft. The 50-seat order for the CRJ Series 200 aircraft is scheduled to be delivered beginning in October 2003 to US Airways Express wholly owned subsidiary PSA Airlines. All firm order CRJ aircraft will be delivered by April 2005.

US Airways also has placed firm orders for 85 Embraer 170, 70-seat, dual class aircraft, with the first delivery scheduled for November 2003 to MidAtlantic Airways, a regional jet division of US Airways, Inc. US Airways has the option to convert the Embraer 170s to Embraer 175s with 76 seats. All Embraer 170 deliveries are to be received by September 2006.

Siegel said that these smaller jet aircraft are extremely well suited to serve the US Airways network and will fill in nicely with schedules at key times at the airline's hubs in Charlotte, N.C., Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, as well as its major East Coast operations at Boston, New York LaGuardia and Reagan Washington National.

"We are extremely pleased that US Airways has selected the Bombardier CRJ family of regional jets as part of its profit strategy," said Pierre Beaudoin, president and chief operating officer, Bombardier Aerospace. "US Airways will realize the operating benefits of high performance, low operating costs and family commonality. In addition, US Airways customers will also enjoy more convenient, comfortable service."

"To be a part of US Airways' remarkable growth plan and to have them as the launch customer in North America for the Embraer 170 is exciting for all of us at Embraer," said Mauicio Botelho, president and chief executive officer of Embraer. "US Airways is redefining the American commercial airline market, and we are very proud to be supplying the Embraer 170, an aircraft that is redefining what people expect from a commercial airliner."

The CRJ Series 700 aircraft and the Embraer 170s will offer both First and Coach-Class service. Every seat is either an aisle or window seat. These regional jets also provide comfortable leg space with plenty of overhead and under-the-seat baggage storage room and stand-up headroom. They have a cruising speed of around 500 miles per hour and can cruise at altitudes above 30,000 feet. GE engines will power each of these regional jets.

US Airways is the nation's seventh-largest airline, serving nearly 200 communities in the U.S., Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean and Europe. US Airways, US Airways Shuttle, and the US Airways Express partner carriers operate over 3,300 flights per day, with US Airways Express wholly owned subsidiaries and affiliate carriers operating more than 60 percent of those flights. For additional information on fares and schedules, visit US Airways online at usairways.com.

Bombardier Aerospace, a unit of Bombardier Inc., is a world leader in the design and manufacture of innovative aviation products and provides services for the regional, business and amphibious aircraft markets. It also offers Bombardier Flexjet* and Bombardier Skyjet* business aircraft programs, technical services, and aircraft maintenance and pilot training for business, regional airline and military customers.

Bombardier Inc., a diversified manufacturing and services company, is a world-leading manufacturer of business jets, regional aircraft, rail transportation equipment and motorized recreational products. It also provides financial services and asset management in business areas aligned with its core expertise. Headquartered in Montreal, Canada, the corporation has a workforce of some 75,000 people and manufacturing facilities in 25 countries throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia-Pacific.

Embraer (Empresa Brasileira de Aeronautica S.A. - (NYSE: ERJ - News); (Bovespa: EMBR3 and EMBR4)) is one of the world's leading aerospace companies. With headquarters in Sao Jose dos Campos, state of Sao Paulo, and offices and customer service bases in Australia, China, France, Singapore and the United States, the Company as of March 31, 2003, has a total workforce of 12,407 people. Embraer was Brazil's largest exporter from 1999 to 2001, and second largest in 2002. As of March 31, 2003, Embraer's firm order backlog totaled US$7.9 billion and the total backlog, including options, equaled US$19.2 billion.




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User currently offlineManuel From Portugal, joined Aug 2004, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4127 times:

Nice, very nice. But aren't the CRJ-700 and the ERJ-170 equal in size?

User currently offlineOrd From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1389 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4104 times:

It says the CRJ700 will be a 75-seat dual class aircraft. The 700 seats 70 in an all-coach configuration, so with first class it should seat less passengers (67 if there are three rows of 1x2 first class seats).

The seat pitch for US Airways CRJ700s will be unbearable. It looks like they will cram two extra rows into coach.


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4616 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4059 times:

The CRJ-700 seating will likely be cleared up as it could have been a misprint. Anyway, the topic by Boeing757/767 is misleading and should be changed. US Airways is placing the order and only the CRJ-200s will fly under the US Airways Express banner...the 70+ seaters will all be flown under just US Airways by mainline pilots through the Mid Atlantic Divsion on mainline US Airways operating certificate.

User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3131 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4035 times:
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This is one of the most exciting orders of the last few months from the enthusiast's perspective. I really look forward to seeing the Embraer 170s flying in American skies. I suppose they'll mostly be based in PIT (assuming that US Airways remains there) but it would be nice to see them throughout the system.

User currently offlineBeltwayBandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4000 times:

Great to see any big order, but isn't it odd for a newly reorganized airline to go with a split fleet like this? The benefits of single-type (at lease for purposes of crewing and maintenance) fleets is well-demonstrated.

User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2903 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4000 times:
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It looks like they're going for the CRJ700 Series 705, which according to Bombardier's website, does indeed seat 75 in two-class configuration.

My question is the wisdom of splitting the order, and then splitting it again between mainline and express. The CRJ700 and Embraer 170 seem to serve the same mission:

CRJ700: Range of up to 2000nm @ M0.825
Embraer 170: Range of 2100nm @ M0.80

Clearly, politics and the influence of GECAS in the new USAirways is coming into play here, but is this the smartest move for what is still a fragile company? I'd have preferred to see them standardize on a single platform.


User currently offlineHaveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3915 times:

well, if either plane experiences production or performance problems (particularly since the Embraer is a new plane), they have a back up. also, they can play each company off the other regarding any future orders, as US will have a viable threat to choose one over the other.

User currently offlineHaveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3913 times:

here's how US answered the same question in their press release:

Splitting the order allows US Airways to get RJs into the fleet faster while retaining efficiencies, since we can tap into the production lines of both manufacturers and because we have multiple operators who can separate the Bombardier and Embraer products to avoid fleet complexity costs. In addition, there is a substantial degree of commonality between the CRJ-200 and CRJ-700 series models.


User currently offlineVector From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 214 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3865 times:


And About the contract options (380 ptions for both manufacturers)

Options:

Under the Embraer agreement there are more 50 Embraer 170 options plus 140 ERJ-145 options (total 190 options).





User currently offlineJ32driver From United States of America, joined May 2000, 399 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3771 times:

WHAT ABOUT PIEDMONT?????? What are they getting... besides the big purple shaft?

User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3701 times:

Anyone know at what pace the RJ's will be delivered. Like how many will they get per month starting in October.

User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3639 times:

I thought MidAtlantic was going to be an Express Carrier that was a wholly-owned subsidiary, like DL with Comair and ASA.
-Transaero Boeing 737-200



What now?
User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3622 times:

I think they are. They will fly under US Airways Express, but be wholly owned by US with mainline crews.


User currently offlineQ400 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3508 times:

From what I understand, the CRJ705 variant actually takes the CRJ900 fuselage and make that a two class 75 seater, rather than cramming an extra two rows into the exsiting CRJ700.

User currently offlineScootertrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 569 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3481 times:

Great for senior PSA employees and furloughed mainline guys... A potential disaster for junior PSA employees and for crews at Allegheny and Piedmont.

I have to say I am very disappointed in this announcement. To leave Piedmont and Allegheny, the only two wholly-owned subsidiaries to participate fully in the restructuring, is a real slap in the face. As a Piedmont employee who took the cuts along with everyone else, I take it very personally. It was my hope that the deliveries would have been spread around the system.

I also feel bad for the junior pilots at PSA who will be at least temporarily furloughed. This is because 50% percent of the jet seats at PSA must be occupied by furloughed mainline pilots under the provisions of the Jets-4-Jobs program. Nothing like getting your job ripped away by someone who does not even work for your company.

However, this is just the initial deliveries. I am hoping that the rest of the wholly-owned US Airways Group employees will share in the company's future that we gave so much up for.

Sometimes, being an airline pilot really sucks.


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4616 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3458 times:

UN and US85...to answer your question - No, Mid Atlantic will not be like Comair or ASA or PDT or ALG for that matter. Mid Atlantic will operate as a division of Mainline more similar to MetroJet. The aircraft will NOT operate in the US Airways Express banner, rather they will fly as mainline aircraft. They will all be flown and serviced by mainline employees (except for ground crews will be "Mainline-Express") until all mainline employees are recalled and then PDT, ALG, and PSA employees will be able to flow through to MDA.

Hope this helps.


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

so then you're telling us that all the mid atlantic planes will be in US colors with US Airways on them not US Airways Express.

User currently offlineClipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3415 times:
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Hopefully, this will be how US returns to SAT. Ended AUS and SAT Sep-1997 after some 20 years here. We had sevice to PIT, AUS, and CLT.

Announced CLT flights on US mainline were due to return Dec-2001 to both AUS and SAT. But, after 9/11 those plans were cancelled.


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4616 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3270 times:

U85...that is exactly what I'm saying. Only the CRJ-200s and ERJ-145s will have the Express titles, the rest will be mainline planes flown by mainline pilots - for now.

Clipper...hold on for about 7-9 months and you'll get your wish.  Smile


User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4528 posts, RR: 34
Reply 20, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3233 times:

With this order for 70-seat a/c, US Airways is getting back to its roots...flying smaller-but-not-commuter jets to offer business friendly frequencies on routes too thin for 319's. Mohawk then Allegheny flew Bac-111's, Empire flew Fokker F-28's. These airlines were not built on 125-170 seat a/c and their successor should not expect to run its system mostly with such big a/c either.

A 100-seat a/c would be helpful too, say the 717. DC-9's and 732's were a staple of USAir for years. But that's a question for another day.

The cost structure still needs to drop more, but it's started....Siegel just might succeed at building a new future for US that doesn't depend on gouging vulnerable markets. Time will tell.

Jim



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User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4616 posts, RR: 23
Reply 21, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3104 times:

Jim...a post on a U thread without forecasting their downfall? My word...could it be, did that tiny little heart grow three sizes this day?  Big grin

User currently offlineClipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2961 times:
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"Clipper...hold on for about 7-9 months and you'll get your wish.

Anything specific?


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4616 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2916 times:

Nothing in writing yet...but it is coming.

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