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A Lufthansa 742 Is Flying High Again  
User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3078 times:

You might still remember the pictures we saw here where a Boeing 747-200 was seen going through a forest, not on a runway but on a truck and partly also on a boat...

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Now finally this plane has been brought there where it is safe of every crisis.
The new object of pride for the technic museum of Speyer, Germany is parked on it's stand and can also be looked at from the inside to visitors.

I will surely try to get to the museum as soon as possible. After all D-ABYM was always my favorite plane of the Lufthansa fleet.

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Max

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User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

The picture in the middle is a Photo montage, right?
Either way, sooner or later I'll have to visit that Speyer museum... a Tu144, a B747, probably soon a Concorde... Probably beats the Air&Space museum in Washington hands down.... is it free, too?


User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2566 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2965 times:

While I will not cast aspersions on the Speyer Museum, I think you are incorrect to claim that it "beats the Air&Space museum in Washington hands down."

The Air & Space Museum, part of the Smithsonian Institution, is the most frequently visited museum of any kind in the world (including places such as the Louvre). The collection will soon be significantly expanded when a new facility is opened at Dulles airport in Chantilly, VA. In addition to all of the historic aircraft at the downtown facility (e.g., Wright Bros. plane, Spirit of St. Louis, Apollo 11 capsule), the Dulles annex will include an SR-71, the first prototype Space shuttle (the "Enterprise") and quite likely a Concorde to be donated by Air France. So, come visit the DC area in December when the new facility opens.



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8616 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2947 times:

"The picture in the middle is a Photo montage, right?"

I'd guess so, too. Alas, they forgot (?) to retouch the support under the nose wheel!:D But maybe there was some light that helped make the supports invisible.



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User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

Where is Speyer exactly? Do you get there by train? I'd like to meet up with YM again. I flew on it.

As for DC I plan a visit in a year's time.


User currently offlineSetjet From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1097 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

It's not a photomontage! I've been there recently and it looks like this (pretty stupid IMO!). You can even walk on the wing and enter the 747 through the cargo hold! How stupid is this?!?

User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8616 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2911 times:

Setjet,

why is that stupid?!? As for the montage, I was referring to the not visible supports under the main gear, which are there.



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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2898 times:









User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

stretch_8:
As pure (modern) civil aviation enthusiast, I have to admit that seeing some old wooden Wright-Flyer things and some moon capsules did not impress me too much when I was there last year. Seeing a Tu144 or a 747 in a museum, though, would impress me a lot more. So for my personal interests, Speyer is (currently) much more attractive!

Besides, I know the Air & Space museum is the most visited tourist attraction in the world, but that's not a bonus (the place was crowded with noisy annoying people (read: children) when I was there...)


User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2566 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2789 times:

Yes Iky:

That's why you need to return from December '03, when the Dulles Annex will be open. It will feature large aircraft, some of them modern civil transport. I think that your appetite will be satisfied. Besides, you can fly from LHR into IAD on your choice of 3 airlines, and be at the new museum in minutes!

As for "old wooden-Wright-Flyer things" and "some moon capsules," these are priceless artifacts of aviation history. The emphasis on overall aviation history at Air & Space is fitting.

That static display of the 742 at Speyer looks impressive, no doubt.



Maggs swings, it's a drive deep to left! The Tigers are going to the World Series!!!
User currently offlineSAA201 From South Africa, joined May 2001, 512 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

Anyone know if the Speyer Museum has a website for more information?

The SAA Museum Society (www.saamuseum.co.za) have had a B747-244B (ZS-SAN) donated to them which they plan to fly to Rand airport near Johannesburg for preservation.

Besides the Qantas aircraft in Longreach, are there any other B747's elsewhere that belong to museums?


User currently offlineBogi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2735 times:

All Information you need you find under
http://www.technik-museum.de/


User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10360 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2720 times:

There are now 5 747s that are part or will be part of a museum in short time:
- Boeing 747-120 N7470 prototype in Seattle (under preparation)
- AF 747-128 F-BPVJ in Le Bourget (the 1st 747 that became a museum exhibit)
- LH 747-230B D-ABYM in Speyer
- QF 747-238B in Longreach
- SAA ZS-SAN in Rand/J´burg

There was rumour that NWA´s first 747-151, N601US, would be preserved partly in the Smithsonian, but recent pictures unfortunately suggest near future scrapping of this pretty bird that saw 30 years of splendid service.

From its placement the LH plane in Speyer is easily the most interesting subject. Maybe I´ll drive down there this weekend.


User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2571 times:

Either way, sooner or later I'll have to visit that Speyer museum... a Tu144, a B747, probably soon a Concorde...
The Tu-144 is not at Speyer but at Sinsheim. As for a Concorde: Would be cool!

Where is Speyer exactly?


Anyone know if the Speyer Museum has a website for more information?
http://www.museum-sinsheim.de

But if you want to see something about the 747 than you'll have to go to the German part of the website as they are redoing the english part.

Max


User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1558 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

Concorde is already in a museum. The Imperial War Museum at Duxford, Cambridgeshire has one of the Concorde prototypes (101) on display.

http://www.iwm.org.uk/duxford/brit16.htm


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2373 times:


Speyer is about 70 km south of FRA, just around the corner from Mannheim, where I live. One can get there in one hour by train.

Sinsheim (where indeed the Tu 144 is presented) is the second facility of the same museum. I´d say it´s a further 30 kilometres south. Takes 1.5 hours by train from both FRA and Speyer.

Both museums can be easily done in one day, especially if you care only about the aviation exhibits.

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

I haven't been to Sinsheim since the TU-144 was set up there so can somebody tell me if you can also go inside the plane? I guess not since it's up on the roof but ya never know...

Max


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2187 times:


If I remember correctly (and that´s a big "IF"), yes. I believe I remember them boasting somewhere that the Tu 144 could be entered. But their website is so crappy, I can´t verify it.

And I haven´t been there either since the Tupolev was put up. I´ve seen her from the autobahn though - looks great on the roof...

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineSetjet From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1097 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2143 times:

Aloges,

I think it is inappropriate to present a B747 "on sticks", to replace the cockpiut instruments with xerox papers, to put fences on wings,...

Just look what they are doing to the TU-144 in Sinsheim:
The back door is always open, so you find rotten leafs in the plane, even some snow (!) in the winter, no original fittings in the inside, stupid dolls in the pilots seat,..ect.

I rather prefer the "serious" Smithsonean in Washington!


User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2076 times:

I just checked on a.net and here are a few pictures from both Sinsheim and Speyer. But at this point there are still no pictures of D-ABYM at the museum.

Speyer:

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Sinsheim

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Looking at these pictures I think it's about time that I visit them again. Actually visit Sinsheim agin and also go to Speyer...

Max


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