Sk From Germany, joined Apr 2003, 75 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5169 times:
In Europe - especially Germany - the flights to Turkey are very popular at this time. They may be cheaper then daylight flights, but it's a simple way for the airlines to offer them cheap, because otherwise the aircraft will be parked during the night. And the turkish families living here in Germany do not have a problem using these flights to visit the relatives.
Rick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5128 times:
Charter flights indeed, our aircraft are nearly all busy through the night in Summer Season. Flew to Ibiza on Wednesday night (23:35 Dep / 05:10 Rtn), doing a night Corfu on 6th June (22:30 Dep / 05:35 Rtn). I much prefer them to early starts, although most of our pilots hate nights.
I think they're great - no traffic around so we get plenty of "directs", usually lovely and smooth, and some of the views at night are spectacular - great view of Barcelona on Wed night from FL370, and flying in over Ibiza town with the Castle all lit up and the nightlife in full swing too
QANTAS747 From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5067 times:
Qantas has its late one deparitng from PER going to SYD and MEL every night around 2340-0005. And this is a traditional flight where the cheap seats are offered. These flights from perth are commonly know as the Red-eye specials
Petazulu From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5066 times:
JetBlue has numerous late night flights from JFK to the west coast of the US. Most leave at 9:30pm ish. The return flights leave at 1-2 am local time on the west coast and arrive just in time for work in the morning. In fact- there are many flights like this by all US carriers.
JetBlue takes it to a new level. For example the only flight on the JFK-Denver route is a late-night flight.
Dstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1463 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5073 times:
Many , many moons ago Aer Lingus used to offer "Starflights" and "Dawnflights" at reduced fares, well reduced compared to the regular fares anyhow, on the Irish sea routes, especially to London. I think they did Paris too,
That was in a situation when they were the only carrier on most of the routes and it usefully extended their utilisation of their aircraft, - as well as always generating good loads and diluting criticism of the high fares.
They died out sometime in the early 1970's.
I suspect you could buy today a flight cheaper in money terms, let alone real terms, due to enhanced competition than any "starflights" or dawnflights".
Chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6207 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5054 times:
Both JB and AA have late night flights from JFK to San Juan (they are very popular with the rowdy crowd , they do everything but sleep - and they are usually very cheap ) JB also has a 2am departure from San Juan to New York .
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5050 times:
DL out of CVG and ATL, I believe, have a lot of late-night service. I think DL has departures after 11pm to Florida out of ATL, and I know they have some flight after 11pm to the northeast out of CVG. I've used some of those flights out of CVG for rerouting oversold customersi in the past. They seem to be the exception though.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4997 times:
Not really as they do not go into markets with one or two flights only. Look at the cities they serve and they run 10 to 15 flights a day minimum. Also they run so many flights they need some down time for there airplanes.
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13518 posts, RR: 62
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4921 times:
I am most likely dating myself tho Eastern Airlines use to offer late night flights greatly discounted. I think they even had there own name that they were promoted with, anyone else remember this?
Yes. Eastern Air Lines leased the bellies of their A-300s out at night to a freight operator in Houston. EA crews flew the planes as freighters by night, but management realized there was untapped revenue...the seats, which were going empty!
So, EA offered deeply discounted fares on these flights (all connecting via IAH), marketed as "The Moonlight Special." You had to fly on these late-night flights only, and couldn't take any checked baggage since the belly was already full of freight.
The ad campaign even used an up-tempo version of CCR's song "The Midnight Special" for the commercials, showing all sorts of energetic travelers filling the terminal:
If you're headin' for the East Coast, there's a new way to fly.
It's Eastern's Moonlight Special, and the price ain't high
The announcer would then mention the restrictions, and the song continued:
When the sun goes down, down...then the price does too. Let Eastern's Moonlight Special...shine it's ever-lovin' light on you..
And then flash to a backlit A-300 sitting on the ramp, ready to go.
The promotion was a huge success, as the planes were already paid for by the freight company (I believe it was CF) and the passengers were the gravy on top. It didn't last long, though; CF ended the contract and did their own flying.
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HA_DC9 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 653 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4778 times:
I think it depends on the location and route.
For example, many flights leaving Hawaii going to the continental US leave during the late night. These "red eye" flights arrive on the west coast at dawn. Many passengers like it because it is a 5 our flight to cross the Pacific so they can get some sleep and they can catch an early morning connecting flight to their final destination and be home in time for dinner.
AWA22 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4728 times:
America West by far has the largest amount of late night flights of any carrier, mainly from the LAS hub but a couple from the PHX hub as well, to the west coast, east coast and I beleive we still have a few red eyes to the midwest as well.
: Martinair, on Saturdays, as a 0130 departure from MIA to Amsterdam Schipol (other four days when it operates as AMS-MIA-SJO and back, it is a little m
: I know that there are some flights from the West Coast to Texas that take off between 0100-0200, which arrive 0500-0600, just in time for the first ba
: I think United or AA has an flight that leaves SFO at around 11:00pm and lands in MIA at Around 5:00 AM
: I know that MSP has flights leaving around 10pm, like a lot of flights! Also, a ton arrive anywhere from 4-6 am, especially the LAS flights! co
: Look at ATA and their late flights from MDW. Most that leave MDW at night arrive at their destination around midnight. I know that is not extremely la
: With WN's high fleet utilization, the planes all stay grounded overnight, and knowing WN, they aren't about to change their business model to do redey
: Well, you have plenty on nigh-flights in TLV. For example, LX and LH both operate night flights with A332/A343 that arrive in TLV at 3:50AM and depart
: I usually take the late-night return LAS-CMH. Departs at 12:35am and gets into CMH at around 7am.
: Lu2fly, regarding SW: "Not really as they do not go into markets with one or two flights only. Look at the cities they serve and they run 10 to 15 fli
: American had, perhaps it still does, have the last departure from JFK to LHR on a flight departing at 11:25pm or 11:40pm, arriving at around noon. On
: Air Tran will have its first late night flights starting in June from LAX and LAS to ATL with the A320's operated by Ryan Intl on our behalf Flight 2
: The problem with cut-rate night flights geared towards increased utilization is that most of your variable costs still apply to those night flights --
: BWIA 524 GND/JFK - Dept11:05P/Arr4:00P BWIA 525 JFK?GND - Dept11:55P/Arr:4:55A This is during the summber period and exact times of flights have been
: Scottb, interesting analysis... However airlines, like Ryanair, do quite well due the generous reductions in landing fees; so why not applying them on
: I think AA has a LAS-DFW leaving about 12:50am
: Unfortunately, in the trimming of their route schedule UA eliminated most of their very late night flights and very early morning departures. Now of c
: ATA also has a red eye out of LAX, SFO, and PHX to MDW....not sure if there is a red eye to IND from those cities. These flights are usually pretty fu
: CX offer pax travel on its DHL flights to KIX,SIN,and ICN, departures from HKG are around 0200am