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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3042 times:

Why do airlines, such as Swissair (defunct), British, KLM, etc., put "Asia" next to the airline name on some of their airliners. All the asian destinations these airlines serve are also visited by the airliners they own that do not have "Asia" on them. . .so what gives?

Here's an old Swissair example:

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User currently offlineMadhatter From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

I believe it has something to do with the fact that both airlines flew to Taiwan and mainland China and there was some formality that meant that a separate company (Swissair Asia and British Asia Airways) had to be established to operate the Taiwan services so routes could be operated to mainland China. KLM has a similar subsidiary called KLM Asia I believe however airlines such as Singapore Airlines and Northwest Airlines dont appear to have separate subsidiarys so I could be wrong about the whole thing. Neither Swissair Asia or British Asia Airways now exist as both airlines have dropped their services to Taipei.
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User currently offlineSk From Germany, joined Apr 2003, 75 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

Simple answer - if you want to operate scheduled service to Taiwan and China you are not allowed to. So many Airlines started a subsidiary and called it ... Asia to operate the flights in Taiwan. At LH they repainted a 747 in the colors of the charter daughter Condor to operate the TPE flights.

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Oops - a little bit late  Big grin

[Edited 2003-05-16 16:44:19]

User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7448 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3007 times:
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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2987 times:

Dynkrisolo brought up a good point in David's link to another thread, he said "Singapore Airlines is not the only one. Excluding partially Chinese owned Air Macau and Dragonair, what about Thai, Malaysia, Philippine, Vietnam, Garuda(?), Qantas, United, Northwest, Air Canada, UPS, FedEx, and perhaps some more? If memory serves, Thai was the first airline to fly both Taiwan and China under the same brand name."

So, take UA as an example. They flew to both for a long time w/o a special c/s, or subsidiary. How did some airlines get away with it and others did not? I hope there is an answer that is more than political, but I doubt it. Anybody?

DIA



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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

I also believe it has something to do with "flag carriers"... The flag carrier of a nation that does not recognize Taiwan (in particular, because of pressure from China) cannot fly to Taiwan, so they make a non-flag carrying subsidiary to serve Taiwan.

It's a purely political necessity.


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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2756 times:

KLM had to also remove the crown on KLM and have chinese safety indications in the cabin for purely political reasons.

They didn´t argue and just did it ...

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User currently offlineLuisca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2730 times:

Why did they have to remove the crown for? it offended the goverment of the people.? commist really are stupid and ridicoulus... and euro socialist too.

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