Pmk From United States of America, joined May 1999, 664 posts, RR: 2 Posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3759 times:
Okay folks, you've all helped me in the past; now I need help finding the perfect airline. For those of you who haven't read my posts I am a frequent traveler on business jets and travel almost weekly in the US. Having said that I now need to come back from London next year and the company won't let me take the new G200 that far for personal reasons so I must fly commercial. Now that being said let me tell you what this trip is for. My VERY tolerant GF of several years deserves a vacation, I just got a huge promotion and raise and am going to do EVERYTHING on this trip ABSOLUTELY the best.
My girlfriend and I are taking the Queen Mary 2 to Southampton, flying to Gothenburg, Sweden and talking delivery of a new Volvo C70 Convertible. We are then driving all over Europe and eventually ending back in London. We plan to fly back to the US in early May of 2004. Originally we were going to take Concorde -- well so much for that theory. Keeping in mind that I am somewhat of a target due to my business and my GF is somewhat famous and recognizable what airlines do you all recommend?
Here are the restrictions, and please don't anybody take offense or start another A vs B war.
1. No Airbus or McDonnell Douglas aircraft over the ocean.
2. Prefer to make less than three connections.
3. Cost is NOT a major obstacle; but $89,000 to charter is too much.
4. Prefer to avoid New York or LAX
5. Would like to have two seats together, not split across the aisle (like the BA beds).
Pmcdonald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3722 times:
Well as far as I know Virgin Atlantic is the only nonstop service from LHR to Vegas. Full First Class on VA is roughly 7,000 GBP I believe. You should have no problems with their service as far as catering to your needs. For the most part (save Liz Hurley perhaps) they are quiet good when it comes to serving celebrities and other VIP types. Of course the aircraft would be a 747
I would take that option. If not, I would suggest United Airlines. Not direct, you would go through Chicago and switch aircraft, which I would not bother with if I were you. UA is also accustomed to serving VIPs.
Both of these options seem to meet you criteria. Hope this helps. PM
Pmcdonald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days ago) and read 3709 times:
...Forgot to mention, the split aisle will not be a problem in United First on their 777 (which is the a/c serving LHR-ORD), 4 seats abreast, 2 together in the middle. Fairly confident the same holds true for Virgin.
You can connect with a 757 in Chicago for the second leg of the journey if you elect to travel United. As I said, the direct service on Virgin would likely be the right choice.
Mika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2791 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days ago) and read 3703 times:
Gothenburg, Sweden and talking delivery of a new Volvo C70 Convertible
Just out of curiosity, what are you going to do with this fine piece when you fly back to the states? You'll gonna have to pay a hefty amount to be able to take it with you on the flight i'll tell you that.
Or you could just stop by and leave it in my caring hands while you're in town (Gothenburg).
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8821 posts, RR: 12 Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days ago) and read 3700 times:
The Virgin flight is out of LGW...I don't know if LGW is out of the question or not for you.
If you could go out of LGW, I would advise you take Delta or Continental over all your options. Delta will be using the 777 and 767-300 by that time (MD-11 will be gone), and Continental will be using the 767 or 777. You could connect in ATL, CVG, IAH, or CLE (I ruled EWR out). If you have to go through LHR, I would suggest American. I have heard great things about their First Class, and you would be able to connect in ORD or BOS (JFK is out); service from LGW goes through STL or DFW. Service would be on all Boeings except for potentially US-domestic flights (MD-80s)
Uk_dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 31 Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days ago) and read 3678 times:
If you fancy trying a 'different' way of travelling this route, why not try LHR-MAN-ORD-LAS with bmi as far as ORD & then a connecting flight with UA.
The bmi service is absolutely fantastic, and probably well worth the trip to MAN.
If not, I would be inclined to travel with Virgin Atlantic LHR-LAX and then America West LAX-LAS.
9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6 Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3387 times:
I find this quite interesting:
"Keeping in mind that I am somewhat of a target due to my business and my GF is somewhat famous and recognizable what airlines do you all recommend?"
If you're a target you better stay at home! And as for your g/f is somewhat famous? Man who cares anyway about your g/f (At least I dun). If she's famous and recognizable just charter a plane then, no one's gonna care a s**t about you and her.
You say you're a frequent business flyer that flies nearly every week and you need advice to choose?? Hm....that sounds a bit weird.
Britair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 1999, 933 posts, RR: 17 Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3364 times:
I recommend British Airways from Heathrow to Los Angeles in First (and then a private jet to LAS). BA do have 2 sets of paired seats (not separated by an aisle) in First, seats 4EF/5EF, so you would be seated next to your girlfriend. You would also be able to dine together as the footstool becomes an extra seat and the table is big enough for two.
The advantages are that BA offers a very high class product on the ground and in the air. You would be treated as a VIP and handled by our Special Services department at Terminal 4, ensuring you every assistance and discretion possible. BA's First cabin is in the nose of the 744 so you would not be disturbed by people going up and down the aisle as you would on Virgin for instance (in their glorified business class cabin).
Airchabum From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 769 posts, RR: 11 Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3346 times:
VS Upper Class cabin is also in the nose of the 744. Some a/c also have an Upper Class section at the front of the upper deck, so in either case there won't be too many people wandering up and down the aisle
Britair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 1999, 933 posts, RR: 17 Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3336 times:
Thanks, Airchabum, I stand corrected (*damn, quickly thinks of another reason not to fly VS* lol)......
(oh yeah, i have it.....)
Another note to remember with Virgin to Las Vegas is that the service operates from Gatwick, where most of their leisure routes go from. From Gatwick the MAJOR difference is the service in Upper Class: Their is NO onboard bar or massage facility. So it is kind of "Upper Class Lite" & therefore maybe not the best fit for PMK's requirements.
ZSSNC From Germany, joined Feb 2003, 428 posts, RR: 8 Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3326 times:
if I was you I would call each and every airline that you would consider for the trip and ask them to send you information about their long haul First Class product.
Then again, please allow the following question: if you are as rich as you claim and can even afford to charter a plane why don't you support airliners.net then with a FirstClass Membership? Don't get me wrong guys. If you cannot afford it or don't want to afford it that's okay with me.
btw: www.pmkco.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again.
[Edited 2003-05-18 14:33:58]
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25 Godbless: Originally we were going to take Concorde. No offense, but if you end up in London and you had wanted to take a Concorde, which is basically a product
26 Going64: Your GF is somewhat famous/recognizable .... sounds like the famous woman with the beard (they have/had in the circus)
27 Ljungdahl: I think I can help out here; you can borrow my second BBJ for as long as you want (for free, of course...), then getting rid of all the unwanted atten
28 Pmk: Thanks for your help for those of you who did. I'm leaning toward either BA from LHR or VS from LGW. Sorry, I'm just not comfortable on Airbus aircraf
29 Airchabum: Hi Britair Thanks for yr reply. Yes the LGW Upper Class service is different to those on the LHR based a/c and the IFE isn't as good on the LGW 744's
30 BFS: My, oh my, sounds like a nice trip. When do you leave? I imagine you must have booked the QM2 quite a while ago, as I hear her inaugral season is more
31 Britair: Hi Airchabum, no, no bars or massages in Club World We do have Raid the Larder though if that counts
32 LHR340: What are you guys like, a guy asks a simple question and asks for advise and you take the p!ss out of him basically! So what if he is rich or has a re
33 Gigneil: Uhm, European delivery of cars to US customers is a popular and standard practice - Volvo, SAAB, Mercedes, BMW, and Porsche all offer it. You fly over
34 Pmcdonald: I will admit this thread does seem rather odd. Some valid questions were raised, such as how it is possible that someone who apparently travels as muc
35 Godbless: What are you guys like, a guy asks a simple question and asks for advise and you take the p!ss out of him basically! So what if he is rich or has a re
36 DC-10 Levo: Go with Virgin Atlantic. The best by far. The IFE is great and service is just as good. Fly DC-10
37 WiLdmanVzla: Pmk: well... let´s wait for a non-stop LHR-LAS with easyJet or Ryanair. perhaps in your dreams it can be the same as your first class HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
38 Kanebear: I would fly BA LHR-PHX and charter a jet to connect from PHX to LAS in that situation... I wouldn't think a Lear 35 would cost more than $5,000 or so
39 Gigneil: There is no such thing as a Mercedes SL65, although that would be orgasmic if there were. The SL55 AMG is certainly a crowd pleaser. What exactly do y
40 Boeing 747-311: PMK- if your company is so rich and you have so much money then why are you flying spirit? i mean come on they dont even have a first class although i
41 NoUFO: Keeping in mind that I am somewhat of a target due to my business and my GF is somewhat famous and recognizable And then you are going to take deliver
42 BFS: No offence, but I really have to admit I find this hard to swallow. If you are sincere about your fabulous life, I apologise. However, I can't help re
43 FFlyer: Volvo is the only European make which has a different kind of duty-free vehicle delivery program: You buy (pay) the car in Europe, but the vehicle is
44 Gigneil: The others aren't duty free obviously... with the others you buy the car from your local dealership, and travel to Europe to take delivery of it and t
45 Flymia: Okay heres what i got for You. I say take VA non stop from LGW. If that is not possible then you can try to take AA to MIA then go to LAS if the times
46 Pacificflyer: That is a very good life indeed to live but clearly you have yet to discover how the true VIPs such as the head of states and the royalty travels. If
47 ContinentalEWR: Virgin Atlantic! They have the only nonstop service operating from LGW-LAS. If you absolutely must fly out of Heathrow, then fly BA to LAX and then ba
48 Tjwgrr: Send the G/F FedEx... no one will recognize her wearing a purple and white dress.... Gee, I'm going to LAS too, hope I don't run into Pmk cause I don'
49 AS737900: Take BA to Seattle, then connect to AS to head to LAS... that's the way I'd do it anyway.
50 UN_B732: Going to Seattle on the way to Las Vegas from London is out of geographical proportion. -Transaero Boeing 737-200