are scheduled to be (or may have been by now) ferried to Greenwood to be broken up for parts. These are perfectly good, undamaged aircraft, but probably due for a major maintenance.
Evidently the used aircraft market is so depressed that the planes have more value as parts than as a whole. These planes are not even 15 years old and are already headed for the scrap heap! Truly a sad time in the history of aviation.
Cloudy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7468 times:
If I remember correctly, these will be some of the first broken up 737 classics ever.
Do you include just the -300, -400, and -500 as classics, or do you include the -200 as well? I would be surprised if there were not a significant number of -200s broken up but I've been surprised before...
Sam the Lab From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7433 times:
Well now, Ryanair still have a score or so of Boeing 737-200s still flying very successfully, thank you very much! Certainly, it is likely that Ryanair may be considered to be a major carrier in anyone's eyes?
Na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10883 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7307 times:
Re the 737-200s of AC I meant major international airlines, not locally operating airlines like Southwest or low-cost carriers like Ryanair. I thought that Delta is phasing out the 732s.
Name a first tier operator other than Delta that still has the 732 and you´ll see me surprised.
Shame about these quite young two ex US-737s to be scrapped. Do they have a bad individual history or what? Flying lemons, incidents?
DeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3856 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7305 times:
Also, several US carriers operated them until recently:
-US Airways used them for their MetroJet division after they left mainline.
-UA had them until after 9/11.
-CO had them until 1999, I think.
-Vanguard, while not major, had them until they went under.
-AirTran had them until last year.
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned a new 737-200 operator yet...Hooters Air!
Philly phlyer From United States of America, joined May 1999, 317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7179 times:
Na stated "I meant major international airlines, not locally operating airlines like Southwest." Last time I looked at the numbers, Southwest was bigger than most "major international airlines" in terms of revenue, aircraft, passengers and market cap. Sort of like the old days with United was the biggest airline in the western world with its only "international" flights being to Toronto.
IslandHopper From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 327 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 7057 times:
Yeah, Ansett was first with the fan-classic 737. They also broke up some BAe-146s from the 80s. Northwest scrapped their MD80s, and some USAir MD80s are on their way to the torch. Wasn't there an America West A320 that was scrapped for parts after a very minor problem?
I wonder when other types of 80s production airliners will start to go. Boeing 757 and 767 are probably next to be broken up. Rumor has it (only a rumor!)that the long-stored Ansett 767s are headed that way.
Scottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6868 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6895 times:
Delta and Southwest still operate the 737-200 (and by the way, Southwest is LARGER than Air Canada, even if they don't cross international boundaries in scheduled service). And America West, Alaska, and Frontier, which all operate the 737-200, offer international service. I'd add that two of the largest South American airlines, VARIG and Aerolineas Argentinas, also still have 737-200's.
It actually makes sense that some of US Airways' MD-80's were scrapped -- they had some of the first ones off the assembly line as PSA had been the first airline to order the MD-80. Virtually all of US's MD-80's were over 20 years old at the time they were retired.
N628AU From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 346 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 6852 times:
While sad to see any bird scrapped, from the point of view of the majors you have to love this. Reducing the number of of used aircraft in the desert will raise the values on used aircraft and help to keep down the number new startup carriers getting planes on the cheap. The lessors probably like it longer term as well, as the write off for the break up (less the value of the sold parts), raises the value of planes on the market. I would expect more of this to happen as more and more airlines are going to lessors to renegotiate rates.
Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 3017 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 6739 times:
Re the America Weat A-320 that was scrapped recently- The aircraft suffered a nosegear collapse upon landing, and there was some damage done to the structure of the forward fuselage when it impacted the runway, not to mention when it went sliding along.
Does anyone know the number of cycles and hours on these birds?
Also, how bout the fleet leaders in cycles and hours for 757s as well (about same vintage as 733/4/5s)
USAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 6698 times:
Those ex-Eastern 757-200's of US are getting pretty old...probably the cycles and hours leader for their type...including the oldest 757 in passenger service...they seem to be in ok shape...I wonder what US's plan is for them...
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Exnonrev From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 621 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6477 times:
Scrapping 15-20 year old airframes isn't entirely new. A number of 1958-61 vintage 707s and DC-8s got the beer can treatment in the mid to late '70s.
The DC-8-20s and -30s were great candidates for JT3D and freighter conversions, but with a glut of newer DC-8s available as the majors were replacing them with widebodies, their fates were sealed.
As for the EA 757s, they still have quite a bit of life in them. I checked the FAA SDR database for the 757-225s and found them hovering around the 58-60,000 hour/22-25,000 cycle mark. This is info from America West's -225s as USAir doesn't list hour/cycle data on their SDRs. (in violation of FAA regs)
: "America West has 737-200s Don't they??" HP sure does have some -200's in the fleet, only around 12 or 13 though and they are only going to be around
: Scrapping 15-20 year old airframes isn't entirely new. A number of 1958-61 vintage 707s and DC-8s got the beer can treatment in the mid to late '70s.
: In regards to the post concerning the -100 model, the last -100 to fly in the United States was operated by America West. It was also the Phoenix Sun'
: Are any airlines taking up the opportunity to buy 737 classics to replace their non stage III, now that prices are so low ? Many noisy 737-200, DC9´s
: That's very sad to hear - those planes are not very old at all! Also posted recently was the sad tale of the 2 ex-Canada 3000/Royal A310s ferried here
: Aviacsa (6A) has been buying ex MetroJet B737-200's from US Airways. They have more than 10 examples in their fleet. I will think that the B732's boug
: Only 2 B737-100s in the world.... AeroContinente OB-1745 (C/N 3) a B737-130. And The Mexican Air Force TP-03 (C/N 217) a B737-112. As Rojo mention ..
: Not really less logical from their standpoint. 737-300s and 400s are worth a LOT just in parts because used parts for these are extremely rare (and mo
: AFAIK, there is actually 70% or so commonality between 737-300 and 737-200 - the engines and elements of the flightdeck being among the major differen