MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 4720 posts, RR: 7 Posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2125 times:
As we get closer to the A-380's first flight, I have not seen any US airport undertake the runway/taxiway improvements needed for this plane. IIRC, Aviation Week reported a year or two ago that all US airports need to do at least some work and LAX needs about $35 million to accomplish the mods.
Presumably only the very largest traffic points would anticipate A-380 flights. Does anybody know if A-380 preps are actually being made at LAX, JFK, ORD, ATL, etc?
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2098 times:
I don't think ATL will require much in the way of runway or taxiway improvements.
O'Hare will get them as part of their already-determined expansion plans.
Teahan From Belgium, joined Nov 1999, 5264 posts, RR: 64 Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2095 times:
Gigneil,
ATL work will be as follows:
Runway 9L/27R & 9R/27L upgrades:
50 foot widening
40 foot shoulders
blast pads
300 runway lights relocated
2002 construction costs are $33.8 million
Taxiway improvements:
Taxiways M and R full length widening
2002 construction costs are $27.1 million
A380 operations will be limited to the E Gates on the South Concourse. Gates E1/E3 and E2/E4 will be combined into two single gates during A380 operations.
Jeremiah
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Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2086 times:
South Concourse? What? Huh?
Do you mean the south side of the E concourse by some chance? That'd be weird since the E concourse, like the others, is situated east to west.
JBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4459 posts, RR: 22 Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2099 times:
MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 4720 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2072 times:
Jeremiah, thanks for the ATL details. Is the work scheduled? How happy are the domestic carriers about paying the $60 million to support one or two flights a day? There was grumbling in LAX, but it seems to have died down.
Teahan From Belgium, joined Nov 1999, 5264 posts, RR: 64 Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2044 times:
Gigneil,
Ooopps I actually meant to say "South End of Concourse E". Or that's at least what I am reading in an airport ducument on accomodating the A380.
MasseyBrown,
I presume the work will start in the near future. BTW, ATL anticipates the following:
- 2 daily passenger A380 movements by 2015, the initial one operated by Air France. No additional passenger routes/services through 2015.
- 2 daily cargo A380 movements by 2015, the initial one operated by Lufthansa Cargo (which hasn't even ordered the plane). Additional service to/from Asia by 2025, probably through Anchorage.
Jeremiah
Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
ATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1361 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1872 times:
Besides the runways/taxiways some gates are going to have to be built or redone to accomodate the 261ft span, the largest gates now are designed to hold up to the 212 ft 744.
BA From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 11135 posts, RR: 61 Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1758 times:
DEN can easily accomodate the A380 on any of its runways.
The new 16,000ft. runway will be 200ft. wide and the other 5 runways which are 12,000ft. long are 150ft. wide.
The 2 new runways built in Beirut (BEY) were specifically designed to handle the A380 also.
Both runways are 197 feet wide, and one is 11,138ft. long and the other is 12,467ft. long.
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AS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5818 posts, RR: 23 Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1727 times:
All runways in San Francisco are 200 ft wide. The 11,800 ft 28R should do at sea level. Taxiways and gates seem to be the big question. The A/C and use taxiway Bravo ( the outer taxiway around the terminal ) but will restrict all movements on taxiway Alfa to 737/A320 and smaller. Gates A-11 and G-101 as far as I know are the only Intl gates that will be able to accom. it. I have been trying to dig up as much info as I can. Anyone have any ideas on future routes of the A380 to SFO. All I have heard has been VS to London. Maybe some cargo ops.
ASSFO
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RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7693 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1599 times:
AS739X,
From what I've read about SFO's current configuration, they will need about US$70 million in improvements to accommodate the A380-800. The big issue are the exit ramps on Runways 28R/10L and 1R/19L--I believe SFO will start the widening work very soon.
The end of Concourses A and G have two gates that are already conforming to the 80 x 80 meter standard needed for the A388. I believe the gates on the side of these two concourses that face towards San Franciso Bay can also be used to accommodate the A388 in a pinch, but that means you can't park a 747-400 on an adjacent gate, though.
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