Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6989 times:
No, although I've been on a few flights where the turbulence was so bad that I thought we were going to go down. My ass cheeks have swallowed seat cushions on a Reno Air MD-80, a Continental 757, and an America West A320.
Zrb2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 903 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6866 times:
I was on the United 777 in this incident on June 3, 2001. It was a thud sound and slight jolt but I've felt harder jolts moving on bumpy taxiways. There was more than "slight damage" to the Lufthansa 747 tail section. The most interesting thing about this was seeing the reaction of one of the flight attendants. She was totally freaked out and kept saying "We crashed into another airplane!!!" The passengers were much calmer than she was.
Qb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6820 times:
On now deceased Nationair, back in 1987 or 1988, in a Super DC-8 from YMX to FLL, we lost cabin pressure at around 20000 feet, just after take-off. The masks came down and we made an abrupt dive to 8000 feet. I think this dive took no more than 5 minutes. Anyway, everyone in the cabin was in panic, even the FAs!!! We made it back to YMX and it took 4-5 hours for the mechanics to fix the problem. When it was time to leave, 25-30 pax refused to board the plane! They should have, Nationair gave the booze up for free to compensate for the incident...
Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.
Expratt From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6764 times:
No crashes, a couple of incidents.
I was on a Pan Am 747 on take off from MIA that had the No. 2 fail just after lift off. The airplane went out over the Atlantic and dumped 126,000 pounds of fuel before returning to MIA for an uneventful landing. There were about 10 or 12 fire trucks waiting for us to land. We talked to the Captain later having identified ourselves as P&W employees and he said that in 26 years of flying Boeing jets with Pratt engines, 22,000 hours of flying, that was the first time he had ever had an engine failure. It was a really hot day and this was when Pan Am was tankering fuel to Europe. The Captain said that they had the fuel dump swith guard up just in case they had lost an engine between V1 and VR they would start dumping fuel right there on the runway to get the weight off the airplane.
I was on a Delta 727 that had a hydraulic failure at CVG and we taxied into a snow bank.
And I was on an American MD-80 that had a lightning strike going into SNA.
But I worked for a guy who was in the three crashes, all at MCI. In each of the three times he flew into MCI, the plane crashed. One was an undershoot and the other two were overruns. After the third crash whenever he had to work at MCI, he flew into STL and rented a car to drive over to MCI.
USAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1859 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6708 times:
"I met a man a couple of months back who'd just survived his third air crash." Impossible.
Cedarjet: How is that impossible? It was never mentioned what type of crash, and for all we know, these were 3 general aviation crashes. While unlikely, it is certainly possible for this to happen. Please get the facts before making comments.
Steede From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 11 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6649 times:
No crashes thankfully. I haven't even really experienced severe turbulence, which I'm equally thankful for. My lone incident was an aborted takeoff on a PHX-BWI HP 757. Turns out the altimeter failed during the roll. Not a big deal, but still a little scary since as passengers we had no idea what was going on.
CAETravlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 917 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 11 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6599 times:
No actual incidents for me... LOTS of turbulence in Jetstream 41s though!
I actually was in an L1011 landing in ATL that pulled up just a few feet from the runway, and did a go around because there was another aircraft that look a little longer than anticipated to clear the active runway.
My ex-fiance is an F/A for UAL and was on a 763 leaving JFK for LHR when the aircraft lost an engine to compressor stalls (from what I understand there were flames or something coming out of the back, but I don't remember all of the details). The pilots did what they were supposed to do, and came back and landed it just fine.
A woman drove me to drink and I didn't have the decency to thank her. - W.C. Fields
Trident3 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1015 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6482 times:
Back in 1977 we were flying back from Tangier in a British Airtours 707 -400. During the take off run one of the RR Conways threw some compressor blades and we did a full abort(!) on the runway. We were stuck in Tangier for 17 hours waiting for a replacement.
A few years later I was at a British Motor Racing Marshals Club training day at Donnington Park race circuit when a British Midland F27 on a training flight from East Midlands undershot and hit the circuit perimiter wall. The rescue unit teams went into the wreckage to stabilise the crew whilst the rest of us threw a fire cordon arond the wreck 'till the airport rescue services arrived. The rescue unit teams all recieved Royal Humane Society awards for their prompt actions in saving the lives of the crew.
Never been put off flying though.
"We are the warrior race-Tough men in the toughest sport." Brian Noble, Head Coach, Great Britain Rugby League.
Backfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6481 times:
"I met a man a couple of months back who'd just survived his third air crash." Impossible.
Yeah, whatever you say
For the less smug among you, he was still walking with a cane when I met him in London, recovering from the injuries sustained in the third accident in October 2001. He's reasonably well known in the aerospace industry but I'm going to blank his name from the news report from the Tulsa World.
CRASH SURVIVORS TELL OF ORDEAL
Survivors of a Canadian plane crash that took the lives of two Tulsans tell a story of heroism and a bone-chilling wait in icy water after the accident, the pilot who brought three of the men back to Tulsa said Wednesday.
Tulsa business and community leaders Charles Ryan and James W. Pielsticker were killed in the crash about 5:30 pm CDT Monday.
Ryan, 50, was the president and chief operating officer of the Nordam Group. Pielsticker, 63, was president and chief executive officer of Arrow Trucking. The Canadian pilot, identified as Alexandre Meunier, also died in the crash.
Ryan and Pielsticker were among a party of 11 people who went on a caribou hunting trip to Canada on Sunday. The single-engine plane, called a Beaver, crashed as it was about to land on Lake Mollet, roughly 100 miles inland from the Hudson Bay in the province of Quebec.
*********, president of ********, remained in Montreal General Hospital on Wednesday. He suffered two broken legs in the crash and underwent surgery Tuesday.
Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 37
Reply 19, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6464 times:
Other than severe turbulence, the only real incident I've experienced was in 1993 from ATL-LGA on a DL 727-200. During decent the captain came on the P.A. and told us that he was recieving a low oil pressure light in the #1 engine. He considered diverting to JFK (for the long runway), but instead we continued to LGA where we landed safely as a flock of firetrucks looked on.
Kevi747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1058 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6407 times:
I guess most people who are in planes that actually crash don't live to tell about them. Those who survive are REALLY lucky. I think turbulence is the biggest threat to PAX and crew safety. I've had 3 expriences with severve turbulence in my 4 years of flying.
Our manual describes it as: "Large, abrupt changes in A/C attitude. Customers are forced violently against restraints. Unsecured objects are tossed about. Food service and walking are not possible."
And thats just what it feels like. It's really scary when PAX are screaming, overhead bins start popping open, and things begin to fly around the galley's. The last time was on a 777 JFK-LHR, it was so bad that the airplane was taken out of service. Then you get to fill out a nice little survey for NASA.
Other than that I've had missed approaches and 1 near miss while descending into ELP. A small airplane went off course or something and almost hit our S80. That wasn't scary at the time, but when I saw how freaked out the CPT (who was a check airman training a new FO) was I got retroactively scared. I was the only one on the crew who actually saw the plane and he kept grilling me about what it looked like, where I saw it and such. But then he took us over-the-border for Margaritas and we all calmed down.
"Reality has a well-known liberal bias." --Stephen Colbert
Rongotai From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 477 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6408 times:
Passenger door came open on an Aer Lingus DC3 DUB-LPL 1958
Starways (UK) DC3 struck two approach light towers while landing at Blackpool in 1961.
Went through a hedge in an overrun at the old Derby (Baginton) airfield in a Proctor 1962
Landed at wrong airport (Abbotsinch instead of Renfrew) in a PA22 1963
Inadvertant deployment of an escape slide on a BOAC 747 at ZRH in 1972
Severe turbulence injuring two flight attendants on a CO DC 10 AKL-HNL in 1990 (they and their meal cart hit the ceiling)
Undercarriage collapse on landing in an Eagle Airways Bandeirante AKL 1995
Wheel detached during taxi UA 747 MEL 1996
Attempted hijacking NAN AirNZ 767 1997(?)
Plus weather related go rounds
WLG in Air NZ F27 (twice)
WLG in Air NZ 737 (twice)
CHC in Air NZ 737 (three times)
HKK in Air NZ F27 (4 times)
HKK in Air Nelson Metroliner
WSZ in Air NZ F27 (twice)
GLA in UA 767
HLZ in Air NZ F27 (twice)
DEN (Stapleton) in UA 727
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12341 posts, RR: 45
Reply 23, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6348 times:
On 2 separate occasions I had aborted take off on the L1011's on one Eastern and the other on ATA. And once on AA while on a flight from SYD to HNL the forward cabins toilet kept over flowing and causing the lights to flicker, we were 3 and 1/2 hours into the flight so the Caption decided to turn around dump fuel and land back in SYD, AA over nighted and fed us and we tried this flight again the next day. This time with no problems. My passport was even stamped Did not depart!
Cx340 From Mexico, joined Sep 2000, 609 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6317 times:
Not really a problem with the aircraft itself. . .but back in 1997, aborted take-off on BA 744 MEX-LGW, because the Popocatepetl Volcano erupted and there was an ash cloud right over the airport. An LH 744 took of before us, and about ten seconds after we had started our own roll, the pilot aborted takeoff and explained the ash cloud was too dangerous. As soon as he said this, ash started falling from the sky. . .I was stranded for 24 hours.
Other than this and two incidents with severe turbulence (carts and flight attendants flying), nothing really.
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