Vs744 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 667 posts, RR: 1 Posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1723 times:
I know on a 747 there is a crew cabin at the back of the a/c where extra crew can rest, but what about other aircraft?
I fly on A340's quite often on 12 hour flights, and notice the cabin crew changing during the flight, there are also 2 sets of pilots, but where do they all hide when they rest? I guess the same goes for other widebodies operating long flights, but the 747 is the only a/c that I have seen with a crew rest area.
LYNDON From United Kingdom (England), joined Aug 2001, 129 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1710 times:
I fly on the A330-200 and B767-300 and as for rest we have to put up with a jump seat or a bar box in the galley.Not really rest but its a break.
Kevi747 From United States, joined Apr 2001, 1011 posts, RR: 15 Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1704 times:
Most large planes have some sort of crew rest area. Thats where we go and hide out. An AA Pacific 777's its directly forward of 3 L&R and is centered in the cabin. Sometimes its just a row of seats with a curtain around them like on our 767's.
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EGGD From United Kingdom (England), joined Feb 2001, 12377 posts, RR: 51 Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1629 times:
When I was on a Kenya Airlines flight, all the f/a's for the business class area were having a chat on the jumpseats at the front of the aircraft :p
Flyua From United States, joined Mar 2001, 269 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1613 times:
Dear Vs744:
Trust me-- here at United, at break time you'll find most of the crew surrounding the First Class cheese tray and ice cream cart, finishing off any and all high-fat-content edible in sight! Some will make themselves busy by staking an early claim to leftover First Class meals by scribbling their name on the foil coverings, while others more practical-minded will scurry about grabbing unused front-cabin fluffy pillows and blankets to add to their provisioned stash in our crew bunks.
Speaking of crew bunks, yes-- the best we have are on our B747-400s (most of our -400 bunks hold six beds and two Business Class seats, while a few hold eight beds, as these aircraft had been built to NW's specifications). The new "runner-up" in the keep-your-crew-happy category has to be our latest B777-200ERs (nose #28XX) we use primarily on the longer trans-Pac runs out of JFK, ORD, and SFO. These babies have removeable crew bunk "modules" in the aft cargo hold, accessed via a tight-squeeze compartment and ladder at 3R. I've only toured it, but others who've spent their breaks down there have enjoyed it, for the most part. It's a little stuffy, but the beds are apparently extra-comfy and the space is much more quiet than up in a B747 tail.
United's B767-300s and our older B777s have curtained-off seating areas for cabin crew rest. The B767-300's rear left-side of Business holds four extra legroom Economy seats for nappy times, and the B777s have six similar seats, either at the front or mid-section of Economy.
The pilots, ahhhhh... the pilots! They are certainly to be taken care off most properly! The B747-400 pilot's crew rest is, as you may know, up behind the flight deck. Nice and spacious, that! On our #28XX B777 fleet, the First Class closet and one F/C lavatory have been removed to make way for a small bed for Captain Sleepy. On the older B777s and B763s, one fine First Class seat is reserved for the pilot, complete with extra EXTRA thick noise-blocking curtains to make for pleasant dreams.
Flyingbronco05 From United States, joined May 2002, 3768 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1583 times:
Jsnww81 From United States, joined Jan 2002, 1711 posts, RR: 22 Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1159 times:
On all the transatlantic flights I've made with American, the formula seems to be as follows:
-hand out hot towels as soon as the wheels leave the ground. Why do they do this? Seems like it would make much more sense to do it towards the end of the flight.
-feed the passengers about ten minutes later, make a second pass for drinks, and...
That's it! They're done, in their eyes. The next seven hours or so are spent sitting in the roped off seats reading magazines or talking. On one ORD-MAN flight I actually had to get up and go to the galley to ask for a pillow because my "attendant call" requests were ignored. Just before landing, they get up and give you breakfast and check on the cabin once again.
The same process is repeated on the way back. The policy seems to be: get all of your work done in the first 45 minutes, and you can have one big six-hour break.
Of course, if I was a 60-year-old grandmother, as most of the transatlantic FAs on US carriers seem to be, I'd need the rest too.
UN_B732 From United States, joined Jul 2001, 4198 posts, RR: 6 Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1132 times:
AEROFLOTs flight attendants on MY hops across the pond..have been fairly young and energetic..(the ones coming back, the ones going there....quick hustle) Every hour or 2 they came by with complimentary beverages..and served 2 meals.... If called, I think they responded every time.... They were chatting and reading books when I visited their F/A area..but I don't know where the crew rest bay is on their 767-300/ERs, but I wlil try to scope this out on a 777-200 I am hopefully taking to SVO.
-UN
USAFHummer From United States, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 63 Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1112 times:
On a CO 757 transatlantic hop that I took in October, the f/a's curtained off the last row of three seats in economy on the right side (34 DEF I think)for crew rest...
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Rick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 59 Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1060 times:
"On a CO 757 transatlantic hop that I took in October, the f/a's curtained off the last row of three seats in economy on the right side (34 DEF I think)for crew rest..."
What?! Those CO 757s can't be doing trips of more than 7-7.5 hours right? On my flight to CUN next Monday our cabin crew will not get any break, they will be on their feet from take-off to landing with meal and drinks service. There is no time for a rest. ALL passenger crew calls are answered throughout the flight.
Up front, us two pilots will be flying all the way without a rest in one of those gorgeous-looking facilities in Flyingbronco's post above. 11 hours later we will touch down in the Sun, and our week off there is the only thing which makes it all worth it.
I have found the service by the cabin crew on AA / UA a bit like Jsnww81 suggested, 45 minutes work then we'll give you your breakfast in the morning! The service on every transatlantic charter flight I have been on as a passenger (including Airtours, Air 2000, Monarch) have been far, far more attentive than any scheduled airline.
Just my £0.02
I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
Luv2fly From United States, joined May 2003, 11216 posts, RR: 56 Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1039 times:
Rick767
I agree with what you are saying about charter carriers and the service they offer, I remember when it was the other way around. I do not see this trend changing anytime soon. You would think in this dog eat dog industry that the powers that be would work with the inflight crews to get them to go that extra mile both for the pleasure of passengers and also to help the company. Even doing little things like offering water during long flights, going back to offering hot towels, acting like they care that you are flying them that day.
Yqfca From Canada, joined Jun 2001, 156 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 870 times:
Couple of years ago, when Continental started the long haul route to the Orient with the 777, I got this message on ACARS.
----------------------------------------------------14:55:14, 09/04/1999
N78008 B777-224(ER) 29478/ 200 008
Continental Airlines CO0007 Houston-TokyoNarita
Using Ground Station 2 .Message No. M11A
Message Type 5Z AIRLINE DESIGNATED DOWNLINK
:0109:DISP
I GUESS THAT CREW DIDNT SHOW YOU THE ARCADE AND BOWLING ALLEY DOWN IN
THE FWD CARGO. I JUST BOWLED A 185+157. I GOIN TO THE DRIVING RANGE ON
MY NEXT BREAK.
PROSA From United States, joined Oct 2001, 5288 posts, RR: 7 Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 830 times:
The new "runner-up" in the keep-your-crew-happy category has to be our latest B777-200ERs (nose #28XX) we use primarily on the longer trans-Pac runs out of JFK, ORD, and SFO. These babies have removeable crew bunk "modules" in the aft cargo hold, accessed via a tight-squeeze compartment and ladder at 3R. I've only toured it, but others who've spent their breaks down there have enjoyed it, for the most part. It's a little stuffy, but the beds are apparently extra-comfy and the space is much more quiet than up in a B747 tail.
Here's an odd but serious question - what with all the attention being given to sexual harassment claims, and political correctness, it would seem unwise to have male and female crew members use a physically isolated rest area such as this one at the same time. Does UA, or any other carrier with similar rest areas, have a policy to deal with this type of situation?
Aaer 777 From Ireland, joined Aug 2000, 199 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 754 times:
I'm so used to flying transatlantic that it is always a refreshing experience to fly to Asia from time to time.
The US carriers have a lot to learn from their Asian conterparts.
I am realistic and I wouldn't expect each FA to be in the starting blocks to satisfy all the wims of each and single pax at the press of a button BUT so many times I've seen them disappear altogether without giving any sign of life until the following morning for breakfast.
I had the great pleasure of flying NH201 Narita to LHR 2 weeks ago and the quality of service in economy was excellent. There is someone going round the cabin every 1/2 hour and it is a very pleasant and reassuring sight during a long trip.
Meanwhile, on AA100 JFK-LHR, you can hear the snores from the grannies in their crew rests even before you fly over Halifax...
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