FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5902 posts, RR: 27 Posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4129 times:
Looks like another round of political debate is brewing over placing a commercial airport at the former El Toro MCAS in Southern California (the airport proposal that never seems to die). Voters in Orange County passed a proposition last year calling for the former base to be converted to parks, housing and commercial development. The proposed alternative was as a commercial airport to help eliminate the pressure from the SNA slots and congestion at other Southern Calif airports.
Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 44
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4097 times:
Jesus, this is like the 710 freeway debacle that has been going on for the last 30 years. You cannot drive from LA to Pasadena direct because of a friggin' 7 mile gap of freeway that the NIMBY's have managed to stall for over a generation now. I smell a similar battle heating up over El Toro.
Look, although I think that an airport WOULD be a good idea there, the people who LIVE there (read: squatters rights) have spoken. They don't want it. Oh well. To shove this airport down their throats would IMO be a smack in the face to a democratic society.
Now if LAWA were to sieze that land through eminent domain and/or the Courts, then that's a different story, although I can't imagine how LAWA would be able to do that, being based in LA County and El Toro being on OC. (I realize that ONT is in San Bernardino County...it has been for some 40 years...imagine if it wasn't and LAWA tried to wrest it from AFB) (SBD / KSBD), USA - California">SBD County?)
Anyway, there has been a lot of talk about turning March ARB between Riverside and Moreno Valley and the ex George AFB in Victorville into an airport. The Inland Empire and High Desert is where all the growth is. Why not puruse those options and let El Toro rest?
OzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5401 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4001 times:
If they could get a relatively quick light rail system to Palmdale, El Toro propositions would go away....maybe. And LGB is gonna raise the slot limits to 200, SNA runway is gonna be extended by 1,000 feet, SAN will relocate to a joint use facility with Tijuana. To dream the impossible dreams...
2cn From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 648 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3964 times:
When do they plan to extend the SN runway? and Where do they think they have the room? Are they gonna extend it over the 71? toll road? Or are they going to (hopefully not-the current construction has caused enough problems driving thru, let alone such a major project to 'burry' the freeway under the runway) extend it over the 405 and have the freeway go under?
I would love it if they would turn ElToro into a major airport. Would love to see it as that instead of a stupid park.